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August 8, 2026 at 8:56 pm #459947
anitaParticipantHi Girija đ
I went back to your 2nd of three threads, where I quoted your words from your first thread (March- May 2019), and wrote down on a piece of paper three things you said back then.
In your recent post (7+ years later), you expressed something like feeling like an ant.
Back in 2019 you wrote: “I am really starting to see that it is like a factory, and we are all machinery”.
In your recent post, you wrote: “I don’t have an instinct towards anything… I’ve removed myself from living… Nothing innately pushes me.”
Back in 2019, you wrote: “My mother taught me- to not try to change your situation as you may lose what you already have”,
and,
“Being paralyzed by fear and being overwhelmed by stress has been a pattern for a long time.”
(Sincerely, Girija, I don’t know where I’m going in this reply. Let’s see if I’ll be going anywhere at all đ€)
You wrote in your recent post: “Life was stuck and he came along and gave it colour”.
Life was stuck in grey and he gave it color.
Surviving life like an industrious ant, or like a machine in a factory (because really living life is dangerous, as you might lose what you already have)- you end up minimized by fear, psychologically shrunk by fear (no instinct… nothing innate).
See the photo above my name, Girija? That’s me dancing back in Oct 2025. It was to indoors live music that played a short distance away (it was raining that evening, so the band did not take place outdoors).
It was a moment of colour, of expanding the shrinkage. A small moment, yet it was everything. The dancing (and the red wine involved) dissolved the fear- paralysis that evening.
Do you, did you ever danced to music, Girija?
đ Anita
August 8, 2026 at 9:58 pm #459949
samyParticipantHi Anita
You look very happy in the photo, radiant! To answer your question first. Yes getting sloshed and drinking is a common outing with friends and I love it. LIITs, Jaeger bombs, Tequila shots đ
I even went on a trip with the 2 friends i made at work. A pivot that happened after I saw his photos with the other girl.
From that point on. Going out clubbing or just a restaurant and drinking was common. Maybe it is to numb but it is damn fun.
I also became more extroverted. The entire team – peers and juniors in the current one are friends. We have a lot of fun. They are good people. Following him here or even attaching to the point of heartbreak opened me up in other such ways. Showed me I actually like and need people.
The exercpts that you shared. The common theme I’m noticing is that I’m not bought into tying job into identity or purpose. And probably being a little more on the sensitive side I don’t like greyness of it just for money. Although money is very important and must be respected. I’ve been n searching for the goodness in it and there isn’t any. All the metrics,progress and processes are dehumanising.
Another thing I remembered yesterday. In school probably 6th standard. I joined the throwball team as a substitute. I was one of the younger players. I wasn’t very good. The captain much older was very angry at me for not being good. I used to get criticized daily. One day I went to the court side and cried. Coach came up to me and said don’t take it seriously.
After that I suspect i don’t want to face criticism and worry about being inadequate. But for the first time unlike when I was a kid. I walked away from the team at work. I now know that just getting angry means bad leadership and I can leave. As a kid i thought I had to fix myself. But whatever it is. Unable to work with your team is poor leadership. I can fix myself elsewhere if needed.
Girija
August 8, 2026 at 10:46 pm #459950
anitaParticipantHi Girija:
âYou look very happy in the photo, radiant!â â I wish you could see the big smile on my face reading that.
âLIITs, JĂ€ger bombs, tequila shotsâ â I didnât know this about you, and now I do. Still smiling.
âMaybe it is to numb but it is damn fun.â â I get that. Fun matters! I had too little of it for too long.
Your line made me think of Girls Just Want to Have Fun by Cyndi Lauper.
âI became more extroverted⊠I actually like and need people.â â This is huge. Itâs expansion. Itâs you discovering parts of yourself that were waiting.
The throwball story⊠that hit me. A kid being criticized daily, crying at the court. And now the adult version of you walking away from a team at work instead of shrinking or fixing yourself â thatâs strength. Thatâs clarity. Thatâs you choosing yourself đ
Beautiful Girija is walking away from what hurts and walking toward what feels real đđđ
More tomorrow (close to 11 pm here)
Anita
August 9, 2026 at 8:51 am #459958
samyParticipantHi Anita
Both work and him were giving me incredible highs. The way I felt. Like life was happening to me. I belong. They want me here. I’m part of something. His dynamic with the other women shattered that for me. And it finally spiralled into work. Everything came to a hold. Ordinary. Life felt extraordinary. I will miss that. I don’t if I’ll ever find it
My sister doesn’t know the nature of my dynamic with him. But she does know how my reviews went down and knows it was due to poor resourcing etc. but she says most people are happy to go to work and have a nice walk. That is dopamine for them. She asked me if I’m seeking crazy highs. And I told her I worry work will now become boring and she said people have other areas when one area gets boring. The walk was her answer to that. But how do I ever tell her that that insane sense of being uniquely me and the world around me embracing me for that.
The downside was that I was as good as my work performance. Couldn’t have an emotionally difficult period. Of course. I don’t think he loved me. Or I don’t know. I just think he was a married bored man seeking temporary pleasure. I won’t know. But the words that I was special, important. And the awards at work. I don’t think I needed the awards. But i needed that sense of the world. My mom and sis do say I was always stressed and did care only about work. There was definitely a down side. It’s like I was too bought into that world. And then everyone chose themselves. I was just another colleague with prospects.
Now it’s very bleak. I’m leaving years of expertise and possibility of him actually loving me or mattering to him. And I don’t know how to want my life that bad again.
Girija
August 9, 2026 at 11:14 am #459960
anitaParticipantHi Girija đ
Using my phone, I will read part of your post, respond with what comes to my mind, then read what comes next, etc. (not reading the whole post at once).
“Life was happening to me. I belong. They want me here. I’m part of something.”- (you write so well, by the way. I think you got a talent đ)
The above makes me think of perhaps (you tell me) about the different experience of growing up:
Life was not happening to you- having had to shrink your inner life/ world because others’ needs or emotions took center stage,
You didn’t feel like you belonged (I remembered you said long ago that ‘they didn’t have you’),
That they didn’t want you there- not as someone with her own needs and emotions, her own separate emotional experience (I remember you sharing that your mother got angry at you, saying that she had already enough to deal with- your father- and she doesn’t have room for you getting depressed on top of it),
And you weren’t a meaningful part of something, of a family when treated as an emotional inconvenience.
Having the opposite experience at work would be intoxicating,and it was (“incredible highs”).
“Life felt extraordinary”- when the ordinary sucks…
“She asked me if I’m seeking crazy highs”- a high that’s about belonging and being a positive, meaning part of something is not crazy.
It’s the other way around, being treated as an inconvenience (your needs, emotions, inner world rejected or overlooked) is crazy making, says I.
“But how do I ever tell her that that insane sense of being uniquely me and the world around me embracing me for that”-
Exactly: you were not allowed to be uniquely-you growing up. When you expressed your true emotions, you were not embraced, to say the least.
I want to send this message because using my phone and afraid to lose a long message. I’ll read what comes next in your post and respond in the next message.
August 9, 2026 at 11:48 am #459961
anitaParticipantBack 2 U:
“My mom and sis do say I was always stressed and only cared about work”-
It is totally understandable to me that you cared so much about work. I think that it was your corrective experience opportunity- to finally be what you weren’t allowed to be in the context of family.
Back to what you said a bit earlier: “I don’t think he loved me. Or I don’t know.”-
That you think he might have loved you tells me that you sense something unmistakenly genuine in the way he talked to you, looked at you, etc. It’s my guess that he felt genuine loving feelings for you, but those were limited in time and place (rather than being continous and ever lasting).
You mentioned reading about Narcissists in an earlier message- lots of people jump to that popular label because it makes things look black and white clear, no ambiguity, and that feels better to many.
But except for people who truly fit the diagnosis (handed by a professional following meeting the person irl, etc.), It’s just a convenient go-to-label.
“I don’t know how to want my life that bad again.”-
To want to matter, to belong, to be fully allowed- or better- to be embraced for you being uniquely you..?
This reminds me of my uncle asking me, with genuine curiosity and affection (I was a teenager perhaps) what I thought about something. I don’t remember the topic, but I clearly remember my shock at the time: someone was interested in what I was thinking, as if what I was thinking had value?
The feeling was intoxicating. I remember it as if it happened only yesterday.
Our childhood experiences are not identical of course, but I see similarities.
Uniquely Anita đ
August 9, 2026 at 6:56 pm #459968
samyParticipantHi Anita
Last night I had an incredible realisation that I really got to live. How many people can speak to rising to the top and having a downfall. To have been heartbroken like I did. It was a life in and of itself. I keep thinking I wish I had done this instead of that. But that denies me feeling all of which I felt. It was amazing too.
I just take the fact that he was also out with another woman as a sign that he wasn’t genuine. I suspect he was just playing with us. I don’t know why I felt it was genuine though. Or he could really do that. Keep each of us in a separate box. For me that wasn’t enough. I now see that it was my unwillingness to accept that which led to me spiralling out and walking away. But deep in my gut I wasn’t willing to tolerate that.
You’re right in that it was all a corrective experience. Not just in contrasting my childhood. But it finally gave me the push to be willing to take some steps I normally wouldn’t. And to embody who I am fully. Pain has a way of removing layers of pretense.
I don’t know if needing that sense of belonging all the time is good for me. To walk away from situations that don’t fill me up is ok but I don’t want to go through life like it’s not complete. I honestly think I don’t know how to live life. I don’t have immediate material goals. Usually thats a good north star to have. Without anything, it’s a dull contrast to what I had with him and the previous team.
Girija
August 9, 2026 at 8:39 pm #459969
anitaParticipantHi Girija đ
“Pain has a way of removing layers of pretense”- unless you quoted someone else’s words here (like something you read in an article or in a book), these are Impressively, Uniquely- Girija’s (IUG đ) words.
Profound IUG words, really. So much there.
I am trying to think of my pretenses, not to deceive, but to protect myself.. I pretended to have no prefernces so to not invite my mother’s criticism or inconvenience. I still say (to whomever asks me for my preference): ‘Whatever you choose”.
What are your pretenses, or just one pretense, Girija?
“To embody who I am fully”- a Shakespearian quote comes to mind, “To thine own self be true.
‘And it follows like day follows night (I’m sure I’m paraphrasing a bit) thou shall be true to any man (or woman)’
Which brings me to the married co- worker. Was he genuine/ true to himself and to you.. and to the other woman, and to his wife.. an emotionally-polyamorous guy?
Things can be so complicated.
Actually, I experienced it myself, feeling genuinely emotipnally close to a few guys in close succession (not physically, mind you).
Like a child playing in the playground, not playing with just one chosen other child.
Moving from the phone to the computer…Will reply again.
đ Anita
August 9, 2026 at 9:26 pm #459971
samyParticipantHi Anita
Thanks for saying that. I don’t think I read that anywhere. Those words come out naturally but they don’t fully encompass the actual feelings. Never. I would love to write. Wrote on medium once. Would love to share the link but it will make my identity public for others.
But it is not structured. In imagination, a novel would be awesome but about what or how I don’t know
I don’t know if he could be genuine considering his wife didn’t know about any of us. And he never explicitly said we are anything. Only had powerful words and actions
My pretenses – pretending I don’t want a saviour to swoop in, make my life feels good and make me less aware
Girija
August 9, 2026 at 10:31 pm #459973
anitaParticipantHi again, Girija:
âLast night I had an incredible realisation that I really got to live⊠It was a life in and of itself⊠It was amazing too.â- I wish you could tell me more about that LifeâInâAndâOfâItself. How did it feel all that time?
âI donât know if needing that sense of belonging all the time is good for me⊠I honestly think I donât know how to live life⊠itâs a dull contrast to what I had with him and the previous team.â-
Losing two places where you felt connected would make anyone question belonging, direction, and how life is supposed to feel. Wanting belonging is human. And the contrast youâre describing⊠I can imagine how sharp it must feel.
… I just saw your most recent message. Iâll reply more fully in the morning (itâs Sunday, after 10 pm here), but for now, this part stayed with me:
âMy pretenses â pretending I donât want a saviour to swoop in, make my life feel good and make me less aware.â-
Girija⊠thatâs such honest writing. Naming that wish takes courage. Wanting someone who brings ease, comfort, and a break from emotional intensity is such a human thing. You put it into words beautifully.
I spent so many, many hours (as a teenager and older) daydreaming about a saviour man. Those imaginings felt euphoric.
Iâll be back to you in the morning.
đż Anita
August 10, 2026 at 9:36 am #459986
anitaParticipantGood morning, Girija đ
The coworker we’ve been talking about- with his “powerful words and actions” (your words about him earlier)- was your hope for a savior?
I’m reminded of the 1981 book “The Cinderalla Complex”, it’s about the hope and fantasy of many, many women to be rescued by a man, to be like Cinderalla who was rescued from her hopeless life with her evil stepmother by a prince.
Although many more women work and earn a good income since 1981, the fantasy is alive and well, particularly when it comes to more traditional societies and anxious women who grew up without emotional safety.
There are approaches in different therapies that target this very fantasy, teaching women to develop a “secure base” within, or develop a secure adult self/ a capable “inner parent” to take care of the anxious “inner child”.
But none of it is easy, of course, for a girl who grew up without a secure base, or a capable parent đ.
I didn’t even know Medium exists, or if I came across the word before, I forgot. I may look into it. Thank you for mentioning it.
How are you feeling today/ this evening?
đż Anita
August 11, 2026 at 6:46 am #460011
samyParticipantHi Anita
Since chatgpt has all of my history, I practically use it like a therapist. I asked about Cinderella complex. It said that I have both the need for saviour but at the same time show the intent to turn my life around for myself. Because I ask about career and have interests around tech. I think over time I’ve felt safer in taking care of myself.
I wonder if the way to get over the complex is to constantly get back up by myself. The more I hurt and get back up the more freer I become. I realized that I’ve never been as confident as I am today. Yet I am at my fattest and at an uncertain period in my career.
My last 2 days have been good. Since I’m on my notice period on my current team haven’t had much work. I did a dance workout, read a book called Yesteryear not fully though. Watched some tv. What I have realized is completely only resting doesn’t work for me. I actually like work. Have a sense of achieving something. I managed to begin learning Go which is the programming language my new team uses. I’m literally dipping my toes into more modern tech. And wrote a LinkedIn post on it.
One thing I have to say is 2025 was my lowest. But the several different paths I took. Books, hanging out with my current team folks, considering leaving the team, facing those fears all paid off very well for this year.
Regarding life in and of itself. We think of a life as spanning 60 years. Instead the last 3 years were the life of me as a lover girl. Intense emotions, attention, electric energy, heartbreak. It’s like a movie but not my entire life. I get to live several such vivid experiences. And with intensity we get both extremes and I did. Nobody I know has gone through that. And that in itself means I lived. I really put my whole heart in it. Can’t say I didn’t live.
Girija
August 11, 2026 at 8:39 am #460015
AlessaParticipantHi Girlja
Thinking about you and your mum. đ I hope you get some good news! I read that you said she was having a scan. đ©”
Sorry I havenât replied yet, just really busy at the moment. đ©”
August 11, 2026 at 9:34 am #460016
samyParticipantHi Alessa
Thank you so much. Yes, we moved it to last week of August. She is a 2 time cancer survivor. This is a routine follow up. This time of the year is around praying for her to not having anything. It takes a toll on her as well. I don’t like seeing her spirit dim
Girija
August 11, 2026 at 1:49 pm #460265
anitaParticipantHi Girija:
I read what you shared, and what stood out most is how much strength youâve built over the last couple of years. Youâre not just âgetting back upâ â youâre actually changing the way you relate to yourself. The confidence youâre feeling now isnât coming from circumstances being perfect; itâs coming from you learning that you can move forward even when things are uncertain.
Iâm glad the last couple of days have felt lighter. It makes sense that full rest doesnât work for you â you seem to need a mix of activity, learning, and small accomplishments to feel grounded.
What you said about 2025 being your lowest, and how many different paths you tried, shows how much effort you put into rebuilding. None of that was wasted. You didnât just âlive throughâ those intense years â you learned from them, and youâre carrying that forward now in a more stable way.
And about your mom â I can imagine how heavy this time of year feels. Routine followâups can still bring a lot of anxiety, especially after everything sheâs already survived. Seeing her spirit dim is hard, and itâs clear how much you care about her.
Iâm here, Girija. Youâre doing more growing than you give yourself credit for.
đż Anita
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