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  • #231399
    Valora
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    Hi John. I’m new here and this is actually my first post, but I felt moved to comment because I had a relationship very similar to yours with your ex. My ex and I dated for 2 years and broke up a year ago (almost to the day). It was very, very similar to what you experienced, an amazing connection, the feeling of a true love, we were constantly texting when we were apart and were like magnets to each other when we were together, something neither of us had ever felt before and as close to a “soulmate” connection as I think you can get. Then our personal lives got in the way, we both had issues we needed to work on, stopped communicating effectively, and then I was blindsided with a breakup.  It’s been a tough year and I’m not completely over it either, and that’s okay. It’s okay to not be over it yet because it’s a process. I’m much, much less attached than I was even 2 months ago.

    I’m saying this because I’m reading what you’re writing about your current girlfriend and about trying so hard to make it work and I sort of think you’re doing both of you a disservice. Your heart is clearly in no position to be trying to love someone else. You are emotionally unavailable and no amount of trying is going to make your heart available until you are over your ex, and that is going to take time and some effort, too. This is the same reason I have stayed single for the past year. In that time, I’ve went to counseling, worked on improving all of the things that I felt I had issues with (insecurities and fears caused by past pain, etc., learning how to deal effectively with issues when they pop up rather than letting them shut me down), and worked through my feelings for my ex so that I could fully let him go and also won’t have the same problems in my next relationship.

    So my advice to you is to think about taking a break from your current relationship. Your girlfriend shouldn’t have to feel second. You don’t have to break up fully, but you definitely need some time on your own to figure out your feelings and work on letting go of your ex, and that’s going to take a solid decision to do so on your part. You also have to let go of feeling like you should have done this different or that different, etc. You can’t change the past. You can’t go back. All you can do is make sure you don’t do that kind of thing again. Figure out what it is within you that caused you to feel that way (generally it’s a deep-rooted event that happened to you in the past, like your mom not giving you much attention), work through it in your mind until you change your own belief in a positive way (by realizing that situation is the past and not the present and things can be and are different now) and can let that pain go.

    I also feel like you CAN have that feeling that you had with your ex again, even if it’s with someone else BUT you have to let go of your ex first. Even if you and your ex really are meant to be together later, you still have to let go of her first so that you can work on fixing whatever it is in you that is making you hold on so tight. What you’re experiencing is an attachment. Your ego is afraid that THIS IS IT, THIS IS YOUR ONLY SHOT, so it’s afraid to let you let it go. You have to push past it until you feel secure in your heart that you can and will find that kind of love again. It’s definitely possible. But our egos are designed to protect us at any cost, so they tend to make us afraid of things so that we hold on tighter when we really should just relax, go with the flow, and let time take it’s course. Work on being able to do that, and things will get easier for you. I’m sure a big part of you will always have love for your ex, just as I will for mine, but it does us no good to hold onto it. I think part of it may also be fear of letting go because maybe you think if she does come back you won’t want her anymore and what a shame that would be. But even if that were the case, by that point, if that’s how you felt, it’d be likely you’d found someone even better… and if you hadn’t yet, you’d fall right back into the feelings so there’s no need to really fear letting go. It’s the only thing that’s going to allow you to find the one you’re meant to be with (or for them to find you).

    As for your current relationship, you’ve been dating for less than a year, right? I feel like if you’re struggling this much already with just general things, it doesn’t bode well for the long term. It’s possible you’re only struggling because of your feelings for your ex, but it’s also possible that your girlfriend just isn’t a romantic match for you… and that’s why you need the relationship break… so you can figure it out. You definitely need to work these feelings for your ex out (feel them and let them go) before you continue in any relationship or the current one is likely to snowball on you eventually too. A woman can come 2nd to another woman for only so long before she gets tired of it. If what I’m saying makes sense and you decide to do it, I would have a conversation with your girlfriend and just tell her you need some time… give it a set time, like you need 2 weeks or 3 weeks or whatever… don’t talk to your ex or your girlfriend during that time and just spend that time with yourself and your thoughts, work through everything, even go to counseling if you can (it really does help a ton)… and then after the time is up, make your decision. Your girlfriend may not be in love with that idea, but if it helps you move on from your ex and then you end up having a better relationship with your girlfriend afterwards it’d be a win for her… and if you decide she isn’t right for you either, then that frees her up to find the man who is HER match and you’d be free to find yours.

    Either way, good luck. I personally know how hard this is and I totally understand what you’re going through. It’s one of the hardest things I have ever had to work through, too, but we all have more than one “soulmate” type of connection out there, so just remember that and, if you can get yourself to let go, that frees you up to find something even better.

    #231495
    John
    Participant

    I did look at old pics i have stored in a cloud account thought the other day.  I will say this, when i look at those, she doesn’t look as pretty as I remember her being.  It’s hard to explain.  I remember whenever i would see her pics before, i couldn’t get over how beautiful i thought she was.  now she looks normal.  I guess when you are deep in love like i was, you see all beauty?  weird….

    #231503
    Anonymous
    Guest

    * Dear Valora: It is hard for me to stomach such an empathetic, thoughtful, well meaning, attentive and insightful reply, the one you posted yesterday, being ignored by the original poster. I appreciate it and if you would like to start your own thread, copy and paste it there (with whatever editing you need to do so to present it as a new thread, for readers who may be interested to read it), please do so.

    John: how do you manage to ignore such a reply on your thread, it is your right, of course, but where is your heart?

    anita

    #231527
    Valora
    Participant

    Dear Valora: It is hard for me to stomach such an empathetic, thoughtful, well meaning, attentive and insightful reply, the one you posted yesterday, being ignored by the original poster. I appreciate it and if you would like to start your own thread, copy and paste it there (with whatever editing you need to do so to present it as a new thread, for readers who may be interested to read it), please do so.

    Thank you, Anita! First, I’d like to say that you give amazing advice and, given that my situation is similar, and even though I’m further along in my recovery, I am taking your advice (and Brandy’s) to heart where it may apply in my own situation, too. That was my first post on the site, so it had to be moderated before it was posted so it’s possible he didn’t even see it. If he did and just chose to ignore it, that’s okay. When I wrote it, I’d only read to page two and then skipped to page 15 to see how things were going now after so many months and saw he was still in a similar state of mind, so I thought I’d give my input, but now that I’ve read more, I see that you and Brandy have given him some wonderful advice, much of the same that I gave.

    I’m sort of talking to myself a little bit with my advice too. haha. I’ve grown leaps and bounds since my breakup, but I still have my days where it’s hard not to get sucked back in to obsessing over what went wrong and everything that’s been said or done since then and what it all means. Today would’ve been our 3-year anniversary and I’ve had some strong feelings pulling me back in to the point that the other day I felt like I just needed closure and then I could get over it… but then I thought why? Why do I need closure? If I contacted him, asking for that, what would I REALLY be hoping to gain out of it?  Then I realized I really just wanted clarity and that I don’t believe he could actually give me that clarity so it’s better to just leave it alone and continue on with my life and I felt much better after realizing all of that. (and I don’t mean to hijack your thread, John, but I figure this might help you too since our situations really are ridiculously similar, right down to mainly hanging out on the weekends and I was the more passive one who was scared to say something when I noticed him pulling away for fear he’d leave and ended up getting dumped anyway. lol.)

    Getting over the loss of a love like this requires being completely and totally, unapologetically and brutally honest with yourself. It’s like getting over a death, and the waves of grief come and go and you just have to accept that that’s going to happen for a while, but the periods in between waves do get bigger the more you work on letting go. And when you do feel like you need to contact the other person, you just have to think WHY? What am I hoping to gain from this and would it be mentally healthy for me if I received the opposite? What is it that I REALLY am looking for here? Am I putting this person on a pedestal and do they REALLY deserve to be there? Chances are, the answer is no. Getting over someone is a lot easier when you take them down off of the pedestal.

    John… another thing I noticed that you’re doing is constantly comparing your current relationship with your ex, but you had two different situations there. With your ex, you mainly saw her just on weekends and sometimes a night a week, right? For the first year and a half or so of my relationship with my ex, we did the same thing… we lived about 25 miles apart and worked different schedules, so we basically only saw each other on weekends and texted all day, every day that we were apart. The thing about that situation, though, is it DOES extend the honeymoon period. My ex and I rarely if ever fought until he started staying at my house more often during the week (where he was here more than his house). He would start getting annoyed with me and picking fights over things he didn’t like (part of this was due to the emotional turmoil from his personal issues too, making him very irritable in general). But we definitely fought more often when we saw each other more, and this is also probably a reason why you fight more with your current girlfriend than you did with your ex. Your ex is an ideal in your mind right now because your entire relationship was a honeymoon, but you never really got to experience what day-to-day life was like there, right? This is why you should never compare that relationship with new ones. However, I still DO think you should remain single until you meet someone who lights your soul on fire the way your ex did. There are more out there but if you’re in a relationship with that woman comes along, that means you’re not available to her OR you’ll be doing the same thing to your girlfriend that your ex did to you.

    Lastly, it’s important that you catch yourself, like others have said, when you start thinking about the “what if’s.” What ifs are always in the past or future and never in the present, and the easiest way to start healing is to always recenter yourself and get back into living in the present. Meditation helps a ton with that, too. (Just a simple breathing in and out for 5-10 counts and focusing on nothing but that for a good 10-20 minutes works wonders to refocus).

    #231533
    Anonymous
    Guest

    * Dear Valora:

    You are welcome and thank you for your kind words. From my long experience here as a member (I am not a moderator and there is no moderator here!), your first post here appeared just when you submitted it yesterday, 11 hours before the original poster’s most recent post.

    Anytime you do want to communicate with me/others, please do. I will leave this thread to the original poster and to the people who reply to him.

    anita

    #231605
    John
    Participant

    Valora, i’m sorry, didn’t see your post when i posted my last one.  I will read everything tonight.  I’m slammed at work right now.  thank you for your input.  i will get back to you later.

     

    Anita.  I didn’t see it.  don’t know why it didn’t show up when i posted my last thing on here.

    #231673
    John
    Participant

    I had a busy night.  I was watching all the kids.  ages 7,8,9 &12.  Two are mine and two are my girlfriends.  she had to work swing/grave last night.  So between kids homework, cleaning, dinner, cleaning again, laundry, getting kids to bed, ect…  I was exhausted by the time i was done and crashed.

    Valora, I read your posts this morning.  WOW!  Very insightful.   It does seem like we had similar situations.  you are right.  I need to quit asking what ifs and such.  I do still do that occasionally(once a day 🙁  ).  I will go through a minute where i think if i would of just done this or that.  But the truth is (which i don’t like to accept-I like to blame myself) that she never came to me and talked.  I mean she may have said or texted things hinting to this, but she never really talked to me and told me these things so we could work on them.  So maybe she wasn’t in love with me like i was her.  So maybe it wasn’t “meant to be”.

    I keep telling myself that, but i do get sucked back in, thinking that ‘only if ‘ i would have given her the space she needed….  Which yes maybe that would of helped,  but then again maybe it would of just prolonged our relationship and ended up the same anyways.

    I really try to stay positive and think good things.  It is hard though.  I do wish that i would of stayed alone for quite some time after she left me.  I was so heart broken and desperate, I jumped into what ever I could find to get me by.  I was bouncing from woman to woman for a few months before I met my girlfriend I have now.  I never gave myself the solitude i should of had, but then again.  i don’t think i would of lasted on my own.  If i didn’t have that distraction of other woman, i may have really done bad things.

    Yes i do want to contact her again.  But you’re right.  What would it do?  what would it give me?  If anything, I think if she did respond and talk to me, it would trick my mind into thinking that she does want me someday.  Just like when i was talking to her before.  It will have been two months since our last message in the beginning of November.  Coincidently, we met Nov, 7 2017 and broke up Nov, 9 2018.  Timing….  One thing i was bad at.  I did say or do things at the worst time possible.  That was another one of  the things that contributed…  Here I am  doing it again.  It’s so hard not to blame myself.  I try though.  I try to think of all the times that she let me and my girls down.  For example, my 12 year old daughter is in band and she has a band concert on 12/3 every year at an event center.  Last year I asked my ex to go with me.  It was on a work night so she would of had to stay the night or go home really late(which no matter how many times she said she would, she never stayed at my house on a work night).  She said she would go.  Then she found out that her son was going to be leaving that same day for the marines and she told me that she won’t be in a good state of mind to go to my daughters concert or stay with me.  That should of been a clue for me then.  I get it that watching your baby leave for boot camp is hard.  But is it so bad that you cancel on your other family and don’t want the support of your boyfriend after he is gone?  Or want him to be there with you when you say goodbye?

    Then again, those were moments that i do regret.  Those were the moments that i “took it smiling”  instead of telling her how i felt.  I just said “it’s okay, I understand”  which it wasn’t okay and i didn’t understand, not to me because she has already committed, then flaked.  not to my daughter cause it was important to her.  Not to any of us.  Thats when my ex was selfish.  I think back on moments like that and think about the things I should of said and stood up for myself, even if it hurt her.  Instead i was the one always getting hurt and acting like it was okay.

    Dang, sorry to just unload like that.  I’m way off purpose here.

    Well i’m going to take some time for myself.  i can’t do what your are saying 2-3 weeks off.  Because of my girlfriends new work schedule.  I am basically watching her kids from sunday through thursday nights after work so she can work.  I do agree with you though about being able to let go before  i can feel love again like i did before.  What’s screwed up is that i was doing good.  I was slowly getting better, then i contacted my ex back in the spring and that started everything all over again, the hope, the false signals, everything.  Even though she was with someone, she would even word things like “it wasn’t real” or “we’ll see what happens.”  My girlfriend pointed out to me that she is the type of woman that likes to keep one at bay.  Like she would say or do enough, just to let me think that there may be a chance someday in case things failed with her now, she would have a back up.  Or just a close friend to fall on.  Maybe that was true, Maybe when we first started talking it brought up feelings that caused conflict in her..  I dunno.  I do know i think way too much.

    I really don’t know where i’m going with all of this.  I do know that yesterday i had an episode and it only lasted about an hour.  Which was great.  sometimes it lasts from the time i wake up until the time i go to sleep.  I did think about her on the way to work again today, but after i write to you guys, that all seems to fade out.  So thanks for this btw.

    I’m going to really try to focus on the good in my life.  Going to try to tell myself all the things that my ex did that hurt me when i start feeling regrets and thinking it’s all my fault.  I’m going to do everything i can to let go.  It is reassuring that people like you have and still are going through similar situations.  Like i’m not alone.  Thanks for sharing that with me.  I need to get to work though, been her for 1/2 hour typing on my computer to you guys.  Please any more input is greatly valued.  I will keep in contact.  thanks again Valora, anita, and brandy 🙂

    #231719
    Brandy
    Participant

    Hi John,

    You are welcome. You’ve come a long way since your first post on this thread. I hope you can see all the progress you’ve made. I’m so glad you feel that the input you get here helps you!

    B

    #231727
    Valora
    Participant

    Yep, the very best thing you can do right now is to just not contact her at all and try to let her go. IF you guys are meant to be together, she will come back (after you’ve both grown a bit and improve/resolve any issues, otherwise the same thing will just happen again) and if it’s meant to be, you will still have feelings, but if you aren’t meant to be, then you can just take this as a good learning experience. Get everything you can from it. Those things that you could’ve done better… make sure you do that better from now on. Learn to really pay attention. I did the same thing. My relationship with my ex was absolutely wonderful for the first year and a half we were together, but then a life event happened to him that made him sort of close off emotionally and then he started having physical pains on top of it, he’d yell at me more often (when we barely ever fought before) and about things that hadn’t bothered him in the past, so I emotionally shut down, too, and we stopped communicating effectively. So I learned how important it is to communicate even when you’re afraid of the result of that communication, because, in the end, if you’re going to break up either way, it’s better to know you got it all out there. I also learned that it’s so, so important to have those kinds of conversations in person and not through written text. I’ve grown leaps and bounds from this experience so even though I’m still feeling some pain from it all, I don’t think I’d change it. I think it was something I needed in order to truly grow and if we would’ve kept going the way we were, we would’ve just broken up anyway later on because we both needed to grow. I’m positive there is a lesson in your experience for you to glean, too.

    Just be sure to recognize that you BOTH had a part in the breakup. You’ve acknowledged and have ruminated over what you could’ve done or should’ve possibly done, but there is plenty that she did wrong too, especially after the breakup by leading you on and giving you hope just to keep you on the backburner. That was not fair of her. These things happen for a reason. So find the reason, learn the lesson, and appreciate the whole of it but realize it’s in the past and can’t be changed and that’s okay.

    I hadn’t realized when I wrote initially that you’d already taken a short break from your current girlfriend. If it was only a week, it might’ve been TOO short to actually do any good, but since a break isn’t feasible now, I’d really try to just work on getting fully over your ex, stop comparing relationships, focus more on all the great things you have with your girlfriend, and see if that improves things with your relationship. You never know. You might just be too blinded by the idealistic image you have in your head of your ex to see what you really have now OR it’s still possible that you aren’t truly a love match with your girlfriend. That’s what you have to figure out.

    I also have to wonder if constantly posting in this thread isn’t setting you back a little bit by making you think about it. I thought about my ex more yesterday than I have in a while after reading through your thread a bit, just because there are so many similarities and I know exactly how you’re feeling and that reminded me of things. So many people never even get to experience a love like that because they settle before they find it, and it really is a different and amazing thing, and maybe that’s why you feel so dramatic about it. I’m sure I’ve been dramatic about my situation, too. But the more you talk about it, the more you’re going to think about it…. So another thing that might really help is meditation. Simple meditation is just the practice of refocusing your mind. You just breathe slowly in and out, letting thoughts come and letting them gently go while you keep counting and refocusing on your breathing. This trains your brain to just let those intrusive thoughts pass without ruminating over them. When I get in my cycles of feeling upset over missing my ex or thinking about what we could’ve done different or wondering about the future, meditation and refocusing on the present is probably what has helped me the most. It’s recommended to do it 20 minutes in the morning and 20 minutes in the afternoon (longer if you can).

    About that story of the concert though…. I think that was absolutely reasonable of her to back out when she found out her son was leaving the same day, especially if she didn’t know that when she agreed to go. I’m a mother as well, and I would probably be crying the whole rest of the day or at least completely in my head and not up for being around other people for a while, even a few days. So to not want to go out in public that same night is understandable, unsupportive of someone else or not. That right there is how you protect your mental health. Sometimes you just want to be alone in cases like that, and although it was selfish, I do think it was something she really probably needed to do to take care of herself. Those are things I think men in general might have a hard time understanding though because women tend to be more empathetic and men tend to be more practical, and also if you generally handle things in a different way than she does, that’d make it hard for you to understand why she would want that too, but you have to remember that she isn’t you. On the plus side, you telling her that you understand was absolutely the right thing to do there and I’m sure that that alone helped her more than anything and definitely more than if you would’ve pushed her to go with you instead. Think back to the actual concert, was your daughter okay with her not being there? If she was fine, then that particular situation really did work out for the best and it was good that you at least tried to be understanding even though you didn’t really understand. Don’t beat yourself up over that one, for sure.

    Anyway, it sounds like you’ve got a good plan and are doing somewhat better. I wouldn’t tell yourself all the things that your ex did that hurt you because that will just be you thinking about her more and centering your mind on her, which is what you don’t want. Just make peace with everything and when those thoughts of your ex pop up, just let them gently pass through your mind and go right back out of your mind and try not to overthink any of them. Eventually they will happen less and less frequently until, one day, you’ll surprise yourself when you realize you didn’t think about her at all the day before. It’ll happen. It just takes time and the ability to let the thoughts pass through… and definitely try to steer clear of any reminder triggers as much as you can for a bit.

    Lastly… I just want you to know that what you’re feeling is normal. My ex and I broke up 2 days from now last year and I still think about him every single day and tons of things remind me of him, but I can also recognize that I’m actually doing better than ever because I thought I’d be a wreck this close to the anniversary of the breakup (and our 3-year anniversary would’ve been yesterday), and I’m really not. I’m more close to completely letting go now than I have been in the past year, and that is definitely progress. So just acknowledge all the ways that you’re actually doing better, and I bet that’ll help, too. It’ll at least allow you to take some of the pressure off of yourself.

    #231749
    John
    Participant

    valora, i’m going to read your post in a bit.  i did  a quick read now.  but i want to read it again and i will respond with my thoughts

    #231767
    John
    Participant

    Yes, no contact is definitely something i need to do.  I know that every time i would text her before, i would get that hope and glimmer of light that maybe, just maybe she will miss me and come back.

    ” I also learned that it’s so, so important to have those kinds of conversations in person and not through written text.”

    I agree, that was one of her down falls.  No matter how much i wanted to talk, she wouldn’t.  I asked her several times just to talk to me and let me know what’s going on, that being in the dark was the worst feeling ever.  It felt like she never wanted to share what was on her mind.   When we did talk, i made sure to thank her and tell her i felt better.

    “You might just be too blinded by the idealistic image you have in your head of your ex to see what you really have now”

    I agree to this big time.  I think this is one of my bigger problems.  I had almost a fantasy life/relationship with my ex.  Everytime we were together(or almost everytime) we were doing something fun and adventurous.  Even from when we first met.  Not even a month in we went and watched a XMAS light parade, then went and looked at lights, then a couple weeks later i hosted a New years eve party, then the next weekend we went and played at the coast and stayed the night at a casino, a week or two later we went riding.  It was non-stop for the most part.  I really had a lot of fun with her all the time that I was with her and she had fun too.  Now…  I feel like that was just a dream fantasy.  That that isn’t normal and possible, especially with my girlfriend’s work schedule, finacial situation, and having her kiddos full time all the time.  I know i need to find things that we can do that break up this prison feel i get.

    We do have fun together and do fun things.  some as simple as staying up late and playing cards.  I know she would love to do all those things like i used to also, it’s just not in the cards right now and i think that is one of my harder obstacles right now.  Learning the struggle again of having things in the way or preventing that.

    It is very hard not to compare.  I try not to, but sometimes, i can’t help it.  Specially on friday’s.  That’s when i usually had a fun weekend planned.  Now…  just feels like the same ole grind and nothing exciting.  I know it’s up to me to change that and i’m trying.

    Yes being on here does make me think for the rest of the day about it.  I think one of my bigger problems is every morning on the way to work i would think of her, then get to work and look on here.  then bam!  thinking about it all day.  I do think i will start taking a break from this site.  Sucks though, i really enjoy talking to all of you and trying to hear what you all are telling me.  I think in the long run it does help, but on a daily basis, it just prolongs my pain.

    “Lastly… I just want you to know that what you’re feeling is normal. My ex and I broke up 2 days from now last year and I still think about him every single day and tons of things remind me of him”

    Thanks for this.  It really made me feel better.  I did recently text a lady i went on a couple dates with and she was with someone that she felt the same as me.  Absolute bliss.  That ended badly as well.  it’s been a couple years for her.  I asked her the other night if she still thinks about him “every day and as long as she breathes” is what she told me.  ( I told her about my situation).  It was reassuring in a weird way that others have felt the same.

    That being said, i really hope that i’m still not thinking about her everyday for much longer, cause that tears me up inside.  Some days, not bad, but days like to day…  I was hurting for all of my work day.  I started feeling better about an hour or two ago.

    I will keep you posted.  thanks again.  for everything.

    #231899
    John
    Participant

    well…

    This morning, woke up, got ready for work, and as soon as i got in my truck.  BAM!  Instantly thought  her again.  I’m trying my best to not.  Like i said though, fridays are the worst.  And mornings.  Mornings because of all the times i did stay the night there on a work night, i would get up extra early to make  sure i could get to work on time(1-1/2 hour drive) and it was always dark and cold in the mornings like it is now.  Also, every morning i would get that text from her when she was up and about.  Every day I still miss hearing her text tone go off in the morning.  Fridays, well I already told you about that.

    I’m going to do my best not to think about it, however all the way to work this morning, all that ran through my head was all the times i told her that i would back off and go at her pace.  And i didn’t.  i thought i was, but thinking back, i was still smothering her and constantly badgering her when she just needed me to be there to listen and for her to vent to about her problems, instead i just compounded things by always making it about us or me or trying to “fix” her problems when she just needed a shoulder.

    I’m trying so hard to dismiss these feelings and tell myself it’s not all my fault.  But it is hard.  Especially when i know in my heart the  things i kept doing after saying I wouldn’t.  It hurts bad right now.  I was really hoping to get up and have a good day.  I’m going to try to turn this around, but it’s killing me this morning.  Another thing that brings me down is anytime i pass the exit to her town on the freeway.  I loved driving there, i would of drove there every day without question.  UGH!  I just want it all to go away.

    Valora, i really don’t know how you did it or are doing it.  I try to close my eyes and think of nothing or other things in my life, but when i close my eyes i just see her smile or laughing or those eyes that she had for me.  That i’m sure she has for someone else now and that really hurts.  “what it takes” by areosmith is another killer song that i hear once in awhile…  I know i’m with someone else, but i don’t look at her the same as I did my ex.  And the thought of her looking at him how she did me.  Well i guess it makes me feel like i wasn’t special.

    Damn, i’m really hurting.  I hope so much that i can get past this sooner than later.  I honestly don’t know if I can handle this for another year.  Living like this, there is no point.  Or so it feels that way.  To wake up every single morning and have that pain.  It hurts so much.  I’m crying again.  I get so mad at  myself.  I pray every day that i won’t love her anymore, that i will forget about her.

    I think every morning, it was just a dream.  a very very very bad dream.  Or that she will call me, tell me that she understands why i lost it, and if i can do better that she wants to try again.  I know that none of this will ever happen.  It’s just all things that pop in my head every day.

    They say ” better to have loved and lost, then not to love at all”  Well, i disagree.  There in no worse feeling in the world to have lost someone that you have truly really loved with all of your body, mind, heart, and soul.  To love someone so much that you would give your own life without a thought if they needed it.  To sacrifice anything for that person.  Then to have them leave…It really feels like she took the best of me with her and i am just an empty shell.  There has been two things i wish for on a daily basis.  1) I have wished and even asked out loud to trade my soul to be able to go back, before things started changing.  Back with the knowledge and memories I have now of everything to date today and be given another chance to make it work.  2)  I have wished every day also that i would have never met her.  I wish that she would of never contacted me or I would have never responded.

    I love the time I had with her.  I seriously think that that was the best year of my life.  I never had so much joy and happiness so often.  I guess you can say i was saturated with happiness for almost a full year.  Having that stripped away…  Like i said, I really kind of wish i never had it.  “Don’t know what you got till its gone”.

    I am sorry to be a whiny little bitch on here.  That’s not my intension.  I do know when i vent like this, it does help clear my mind. I’m starting to feel better already.  thanks for listening.

    #232589
    John
    Participant

    I had a pretty good weekend.  My oldest daughter had her baby shower at my house.  that went good.  then watched football with my friends afterwards.  That was something my ex never did.  I never asked her though either i supposed.

    Sunday we went to the pumpkin patch with all the kiddos and met my girlfriends family there.  It was fun too.  Although, i was still having thoughts in the back of my head.  This last weekend was the last time I was a with my ex.

    It had me thinking about everything.  The whole relationship, and about that last weekend together.  I know i shouldn’t dwell on the things I should of or shouldn’t of done, but it’s really hard not to.

    A year ago, I was supposed to spend the whole weekend at her house.  She asked me a week earlier, what i wanted to do, when i wanted to come down (we had a halloween party to go to on sat night).  Of course i wanted to come down on friday.  I even told her though, “you decide”.  She still left it up to me.  So yes i said i would be down after work friday afternoon.  I was going to get there by the time she got off work.  I was so excited. I got off at 2:30, was going to go home and be out the door by 3:00.  That would of put me there about the same time she got home from work.

    Man, i couldn’t sit still.  I was counting minutes till i got off work.  I was super pumped to see her for a full weekend.

    Well.  At 1:45, she texted me.  “I’m not feeling it tonight, can you come down tomorrow instead”  Something like that.  WOW!  that stopped my in my tracks.  WTF i was thinking.  I was hurt and confused.  Why would she tell me it’s up to me, then change it at the last minute.  I didn’t understand why she wouldn’t want to see me.  So i was upset and she knew it.  Then she got pissed at me, “I don’t know why you get so butthurt”.  We talked later that night.  I told her exactly why.  I told her i was looking forward to seeing her all day, counting the time, just waiting until i got to head down, and at the last moment “you’re not feeling it” .  I told her “it’s okay” again, which i shouldn’t have, i should of told her i didn’t understand.  And that it’s not fair to me for her to flake out like that.  I should have told her how i really felt.  But i didn’t.  I was a weak coward, afraid of starting any kind of conflict(which looking back may have been just what we needed).  I really should have said something to her.  instead i was just a doormat, like she had  told me before.  Well i waited till  the next day.  I didn’t hurry like i normally do and she flicked me shit.  she figured i would of been up at the crack of dawn and on my way.

    Looking back on that day or weekend, there were so many signs.  I was a fool and didn’t choose to see them.  Even the weekend before, she came up and there were signs then.

    Really thinking back on it all.  I really do think she had started seeing someone.  Not intentionally, something just happened and I think she was trying to go back and forth to see what she really needed/wanted.  Cause the weekend before, she texted me on my way.  It took her almost two hours to get to my house after that.  When she got there, i gave her shit.  “took long enough”  i was just kidding though, then she told me she texted me after she was already on the freeway.  Which left over 1/2 hour that she had of mystery time.  I really felt like she was seeing someone and left later than she thought.  That she texted me when she was leaving his house and stayed a little longer or something.  Just like the next friday when she told me she wasn’t feeling it.  Like she ended up seeing someone else that night.  or ended up making plans to at the last moment.  I may be wrong though.  Just one of those things that i will always wonder about.

    So back to that weekend….  I decided not to rush there the next day and then when i got there later than she anticipated it felt like she wanted me there earlier.  Very confusing.  She seemed distant and different the whole time.  Like she was pushing me to want to fight.  again, i was a coward and let it be.  I don’t know if she was testing me or just done at that point and tried of me being a push over.  I don’t know if i can ever forgive myself for not being myself though and standing up like i should of.

    We went out that night and it was a good night until the end.  We ended up fighting over something stupid.  Went home to her house, both of us upset and went to bed.  Not the night i was anticipating.  The next day neither of us brought it up, which again i wish i would of and talked to her.  I feel like that was the last real chance i had of making things better.  Asking her what was going on and what i needed to do to help things get better.  But no!  I was still a coward.  I was so afraid to bring it up in fear of losing her.  I did ask her if I was staying over that night and she said no.  so i played it cool and was okay with it.  Then when i started packing up to go home around 6PM, she got upset because she thought i was leaving.  She said she almost started crying.  so i ended up staying until 9:30 that night.  I think looking back on it, she knew she was done and me leaving was the last time we were going to see each other and that’s why she was upset.

    I am really trying to do everything you all have told me and been trying to teach me.  It is so hard though.  So hard to just let go like you said Valora.  I still have this hope that if i do this or that that someday she will come back.  It hurts so much.  I have so many regrets that i cannot get past no matter what i try.  This by far has been one of the worst days for me in a long time.

    I am sorry to keep on repeating myself and sounding like a broken record, but when i can express myself to you all, it does help me some.  God it hurts though.  I think that one of the things that hurts the most is knowing she is happy now with out me in her life.  I wish i could get inside her head and see if she does miss me at all or what we did have.

    It hurts really bad today.  I absolutely hate this.   I wish so much that i could just have one day or even half a day without thoughts of her.

    I am trying so hard to not think about her.  How do you not love someone like that anymore.  i don’t get it.  i really don’t.  She could of told me that she fucked around on me a couple times or even dated someone for a bit while with me and i still would have taken her back.  I just don’t understand that.  I hate that i’m like this.

    Thanks again for listening.  Sorry again about being this way.  I’m  sure you all are tired of hearing…  I do appreciate you all though.  I need to try to focus on work.

    #232623
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear John:

    Congratulations, you are a grandfather!

    Be good to the children: the new baby, your two daughters and your girlfriend’s children. And like I suggested to you recently after you shared that you repeatedly fought with your girlfriend: make sure her children do not witness those fights or feel the tension following such fights, avoid fighting with their altogether.

    One thing you wrote that you very much liked about the ex girlfriend, was her child like wonder, about seals and such, being excited like a child. Well, look for that excitement in the children and enjoy it, make sure you encourage it, make them feel safe and welcome their excitement about the small wonders of life.

    anita

    #232655
    John
    Participant

    thanks.  I will try.

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