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  • #207365
    Brandy
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    I don’t know if you’re right or wrong about the drama queen needing attention part. I think this forum is helpful in that not only does it provide emotional support and some light advice for those who need it, but it also helps people see how their own actions/behaviors and character flaws may be contributing to their own problems. I’m not as good as other members at determining what a person’s character flaws are; I’m better at providing the emotional support and light advice (which you can take or leave btw).

    So if you call her and she says she wants to get back together, you’ll be happy but you now have two brand new problems to deal with: 1) the fear that she will hurt you again, and 2) you can’t bring her around your friends because they don’t like her. If she says that she doesn’t want to get back together then you’ll be able to move on, but you are hurt.

    When I’m faced with a problem like this, I do nothing. I wait until I can see the situation more clearly before I make any big moves. I focus on other areas of my life: family, work, health, friends, hobbies, ambitions, spirituality, fun. I tell myself that I’ll be okay without immediate resolution to this problem. Then I leave it alone and get on with life. More often than not the problems resolve themselves without my doing anything.

    #207385
    John
    Participant

    I suppose your right. Maybe I should just get on with my life and forget about her.  Well, For now.

    I think that her texting me like she did brought New hope in my heart and it’s hard to let it go.

    I know a lot of you said if she did want something that she would contact me or at least keep in touch more. It is hard though. I have realized I go through a circle. First I think forget her. It wasn’t meant to be. Then I think I should embrace what I could have with someone here that wants to give me everything and that if I can just let go of the past I will enjoy and love that person with all of me. Then I think that nobody can ever make me feel what my ex did(in my mind she was perfect for me-even with all her baggage and the pain she did cause me. ). Then I think if we did try again I would be back where I was.  Happy and talking to her and seeing her again.  Having fun with her like I did  making memories. (We made a lot of memories together in the year we were together considering the distance between us).. then Thinking about when the future would allow us to be together. And the heartache of waiting for that. Then thinking it would just fail again. Then start over.

    I really wish I could shut my brain and heart off. I really do.

    I used to never be like this. I would of just moved on to something new. Now it’s hard to focus on projects or doing things. Maybe it’s because she enjoyed so much of what I did that everything still reminds me of her.

    An example is I was going through my RV getting it ready for campimg and I came across things she bought for it. And a hat she bought me at a car show we went to. A hat that she hated but saw that I liked it so she bought it for me  anyways

    I do know it takes time for memories to fade into something that you look back on and smile rather than look back on and hurt because she is gone.

    It’s just hard. I want so bad just to call her and ask her. But I know right now would be bad. That’s why I was hoping she would meet with me in person as “friends”. At least then I could of gotten some kind of vibe from her. It’s so hard to know over texting. Even if she quit texting as much.

    Ive been told to focus on all the bad. And that will help. Ive tried. I really have, all I see is all the good in her. And all the love she did show me and my girls. I see all the things I loved about her.

    I guess I wait. Like you all said if it’s meant to be it will be.

    I just can’t help but wonder if I don’t do or say anything if I’m passing up on the one chance I could have to make it happen.   But then I think if she is thinking I’m being needy again and I try. Will it push her away.

    I hate games like this. I wish I could just tell her in person “ hi,  I know we had a rough ending and have both gone our separate ways. But, I can’t help how I feel about you and wanted to ask u if you would consider giving us one more try. If not then I will not ever ask this again. But if you have any feeling in your heart. Isn’t it worth a try?”

    if you were a person that was truly in love with someone( I felt it in my bones with her the way she acted with me), but had a bad break up. And then came around later. How would you take that?  Or is there something more or less I should say?

    #207391
    Brandy
    Participant

    “I hate games like this. I wish I could just tell her in person ‘ hi,  I know we had a rough ending and have both gone our separate ways. But, I can’t help how I feel about you and wanted to ask u if you would consider giving us one more try. If not then I will not ever ask this again. But if you have any feeling in your heart. Isn’t it worth a try?’ “

    This scenario won’t happen because she has already told you that she won’t meet with you. You asked her, and she won’t do it.

    “if you were a person that was truly in love with someone( I felt it in my bones with her the way she acted with me), but had a bad break up. And then came around later. How would you take that?”  

    If I really missed him and wanted to see him, I’d be thrilled to hear from him and I’d say to him “I’m so happy you contacted me! I’ve missed you!”, and I would meet with him. She has done none of these things. She doesn’t want to meet with you and has stopped texting you.

    “Or is there something more or less I should say?”

    I don’t believe that there is anything more or less that you can say to make a person miss you and want to be with you. She either does or she doesn’t.

    If you just absolutely need her to spell out for you what she wants before you can resume your life, then I’m with anita: “Ask her then, clearly, directly, with no dramatics, no excess words, no going on about how you feel. Be pragmatic, to the point. Let her know that you will not argue with her answer, that you will not plead your case, that you will accept her answer graciously and make the call short.”

    There is one thing you wrote in your last post that I don’t understand: We made a lot of memories together in the year we were together considering the distance between us. What does “considering the distance between us” mean?

    B

    #207393
    John
    Participant

    I was referring to the physical distance.

    We didn’t get to see each other on a regular basis. But we made good memories every time.

    #207401
    Brandy
    Participant

    Was it a long distance relationship? About how often did you two see each other in the year you were together?

    In the post before your last one you wrote about her love for you: “I felt it in my bones with her the way she acted with me”. Did she ever tell you that she loved you?

    Was it an exclusive relationship, or were you both free to date other people during that year?

    B

    #207403
    Brandy
    Participant

    oops, just now realized that you did say it was semi-long distance in your first post. Sorry, I forgot about that.

    #207407
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear John:

    Just ask her. Make your question simple, clear, to the point, something like what you suggested in your post before last: “would (you) consider giving us one more try”?

    anita

     

    #207433
    John
    Participant

    Just ask her. Make your question simple, clear, to the point, something like what you suggested in your post before last: “would (you) consider giving us one more try”?

    Thanks.  that’s what i will do.  I just need to know.  I need a definitive answer from her so i can move on with my life.  I feel like i’m in some kind of relationship purgatory(even if it’s my own doing).

    #207441
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear John:

    It sure is nice, the thought that unlike the religious purgatory idea, in your life you can get yourself out of purgatory. Don’t have to be there, not knowing and “very confused”. When you ask her, let her know that if she does have a clear answer for you, to please give it to you because you do need clarity in order to well, get out of purgatory.

    anita

    #207787
    John
    Participant

    well, update…  I didn’t ask her that yet.  I did send her a text yesterday asking her opinion on a phone case i got(I think it’s  a woman case. lol).  basically light and fun text.  nothing hidden or meaning behind it.  We went back and forth for a sec.  Got  a laugh out of her and left it at that.

    So today i found some riding gear for my daughter(ATV) for sell at the coast(where we ride on the dunes).  I texted my ex and told her that i may be going there one day this weekend and was thinking of bringing my quad to go for a ride when i’m there.  I invited her to go.  I made it light and fun as well.  Even made a joke(inside joke referring to when we went here together back in june).  Again, i made it all fun and light and open.  She responded “LOL, you crack me up!  Let me think about it, K?”

    so i responded, no problem, not sure if i’m going yet or not myself.  then i showed her a pic of the add of the gear.

    So, we will see.  I’m really trying to stay positive.  I would love to have a fun day with her, no strings.  just to kind of feel if there is anything before i do ask her anything.

    I really think she will end up canceling.  We will see though.  I will ask her again friday if i don’t hear from her.  I should know by then if i am going to the dunes or not.

    #207793
    Brandy
    Participant

    “Let me think about it, K?” Hmmm, I wouldn’t have predicted that reply. She may be proving my theory wrong — I hope so! Thanks for the update. -B

    #207857
    Michelle
    Participant

    I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to say … I sincerely hope you have informed your current girlfriend about all this (or have broken up with her in order to pursue your ex, which you are with the invite to go to the dunes). There’s been so much drama involved in this already that I don’t feel it would be fair to drag her into this as well. She is an innocent bystander in your pursuit of fancy. You owe her that much. Don’t treat her as a safety net.

    #207923
    John
    Participant

    I’ve been following this thread for awhile and just wanted to say … I sincerely hope you have informed your current girlfriend about all this (or have broken up with her in order to pursue your ex, which you are with the invite to go to the dunes). There’s been so much drama involved in this already that I don’t feel it would be fair to drag her into this as well. She is an innocent bystander in your pursuit of fancy. You owe her that much. Don’t treat her as a safety net.

    I talked to my current GF (or whatever she is now) last weekend.  She told me ” why do i always fall in love with a guy that is in love with someone else?”  I guess her last BF left her after 6 months and went back to his ex-wife.  GREAT!   I really feel like a POS now.  And i feel even worse for her.  I didn’t plan this I swear!  If i would of known my ex would of started talking again, i would of never gotten involved.

    She did tell me she’s not mad.  She knows i didn’t do this intentionally and that I do have feelings for her.  She also said that the heart and the brain are two different things, and as much as my brain wants to be with her and all the sense it makes, the heart wants what the heart wants…  And that I need to ask my ex what’s up and if she will consider us again.  She said maybe i need to hear her say NO to really get the closure i need from her to move on and be able to love someone else like i should.

    My current (?? she is,)  is really a good woman with a huge heart.  God, just wish i wasn’t hung up on my ex so bad, and also that my current (?? she is) didn’t drink as much as she did and had a little more control over her children…  but thats another issue..

    I am going to contact my ex tomorrow and find out about riding.  I’m going to leave the day and time up to her.  try to make it so i’m not pushing and am totally flexible with what she wants.  Try not to plan as much as possible.  We will see, but like i said.  I’m thinking she will cancel.  this is really hard to do .  I guess if she does cancel, then i will ask her about us this weekend sometime.  Maybe i  will try calling her.  I don’t think she would answer that either though.

    I need a definite yes or no though, so i can move on or try to.  I will always miss her and love her no matter.  I know that in my heart.  Something said about feeling connected to someone on a deep level i guess.  It was like i new her thoughts (well before everything went to shit.  LOL)

    #208697
    John
    Participant

    Well, we never met for riding.  Both her boys were home this weekend and they were doing house stuff.  I guess she is putting it up for sale.  Regardless, i know if she did want to meet she would of made time.  I’m not too ignorant.

    I’ve been too chicken shit to ask her.  Almost like i would rather go through life with this illusion of hope that she wants to be with me, but can’t right now rather than knowing she doesn’t.  If that makes any sense at all.  Also, what if she said yes and it ended up not working out again?  That’s a real scary thought also.

    I’m telling you though, we really were in love hard.  Maybe it was too much.  We overdid it in the beginning and i did become addicted like you’ve said.  I don’t know.  maybe it’s just one of those things, since i can’t have it it makes me want it more?  UGH!

    I’m going to try to ask her tomorrow or the next day though.  I need to be done with this torture.  Even if it is self inflicted.

    Either she says yes and we try and hopefully my frown turns upside down.  Or she says NO and I can write her off, and move on to  new things.

    We will see.

    #208797
    Brandy
    Participant

    Hi John,

    She has given you mixed messages, so I understand why you’re confused. I can also understand how going through life with an illusion of hope that she wants to be with you might seem easier than facing what really may be happening. But I’d take the truth over an illusion any day of the week. Truth is better. I’m no expert, but if she is no longer interested in you romantically,  I think that in order for you to move on and heal from this, you need to face the truth.

    When you do find a good time to ask her, best of luck! I hope it works out. If she says no, hang in there; you’ll be okay. You’re stronger than you think.

    B

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