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  • #460613
    Roberta
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    Dear Nea

    Congratulations on the birth of your precious daughter, may her life be filled with love & laughter.
    Best wishes
    Roberta

    #460621
    Nea
    Participant

    Thank you, Anita ❤️ And yes, that’s basically what my family said too — that he could have at least said hi, welcomed him, acknowledged him somehow. In that moment, why couldn’t it just be about his daughter and his granddaughter? Saying hello to my husband wouldn’t have been some huge thing, and it could have made the whole moment feel a little warmer.

    It is sad, and I think that incident is still sitting there in the background more than I wish it was. But right now I’m also in this completely new little world of cuddles, snuggles and serious sleep deprivation 😂. It’s definitely an adjustment for both me and my husband, and being at my parents’ house with a newborn adds another layer to everything. My mom and sister have been really helpful, which I’m grateful for, but I think the tension from everything that happened is still just… there.

    And omg, I LOVE that you were out dancing!! 💃✨ I wish I was on that dance floor too — I would be having so much fun! And that is so sweet that the woman made you think of me for a moment 🥹❤️

    Nea

    #460622
    Nea
    Participant

    Thanks so much Roberta, means a lot!! 😊❤️

    Nea

    #460625
    anita
    Participant

    Good Tues afternoon, Nea ❤️

    Thank you for your enthusiasm about my dancing — it’s making me smile right now.

    I’m glad your mom and sister are helping, and I hope you can keep your attention mostly on your little bubble with the baby, rather than on the tension that’s understandably still there.

    “In that moment, why couldn’t it just be about his daughter and his granddaughter?”-

    My best answer: he couldn’t make the moment about you and your baby because his emotional world is centered on his own hurt, pride, and rigidity, not on connection. When a heart has closed, even a newborn grandchild can’t break through that wall.

    In that moment at the hospital, he wasn’t thinking “my daughter just gave birth” or “my granddaughter is here.” He was thinking about the grudge he holds against your husband. His emotional priority stayed fixed on that, so he couldn’t shift into warmth or simple human kindness.

    Some people’s hearts don’t open in milestone moments because they don’t open at all.

    Seeing him clearly — seeing that this is about his emotional limits, not about you or your husband — may help reduce some of the tension you’re feeling. And even if he becomes “nice” at some point, it may be more of a social performance than a real softening inside him.

    🌿Anita

    #460644
    Nea
    Participant

    Good afternoon, Anita ❤️

    Thank you — I really appreciate your message and the way you explained that.

    It’s definitely been quite the adjustment, and I’m trying to keep my attention on enjoying her while also recovering and getting as much rest as I can. It’s just sad that my mind keeps going back to the situation, especially because we’re still in the same house, so it’s hard to fully separate myself from it.

    I also keep hearing different opinions about how my husband could still engage politely or take the initiative to introduce Grandpa to the baby, and I understand where people are coming from. But then my mind goes right back to: my dad could do that too. This is the biggest moment of my life. My husband has been nothing but supportive through the birth and now through my recovery — taking care of me, helping with the baby, and really being there for both of us. I think part of me still wonders, even seeing all of that, isn’t there some soft spot in my dad’s heart that could allow him to put everything else aside for a moment?

    I think that’s the back-and-forth I’m struggling with most right now.

    How have you been, Anita?

    Nea

    #460645
    anita
    Participant

    Good Wed afternoon, Nea 🌿

    I’m having a peaceful day so far, keeping a eye on 2 beagles chewing bones on the carpet below me, to my right, while I’m sitting on the lounge typing to you on the phone. That’s a good day in my book 🙂

    You are welcome, Nea, truly a pleasure talking with you.

    It’s not surprising to me that your mind keeps going back to the situation, a situation that’s still happening right in front of you (in the sense of what is not happening, that is).

    I believe that the opinions that your husband should initiate a polite interaction with your father, if implemented, are dangerous because they’ll cost your husband his dignity aka self-respect.

    It won’t harm him physically, it will harm him where it matters just as much: how he feels about himself.

    I’m glad that your husband has been nothing but supportive and taking care of you and the baby ✨️✨️✨️

    “I think part of me still wonders, even seeing all of that, isn’t there some soft spot in my dad’s heart…”-

    I wondered something similar in regard to my mother and kept hoping and waiting and hoping for.. well, for half a century, for that soft spot to translate to love and safety for me. It was only a few years ago that I realized that that soft spot was covered and locked by a steel door that can’t be opened 😔

    I’m still grieving the mother I hoped to have one bright happy day.

    ❤️ Anita

    #460646
    anita
    Participant

    * locked under a steel door..

    #460647
    Nea
    Participant

    Good evening Anita!

    That honestly sounds like such a peaceful afternoon — sitting on the lounge with the two beagles happily chewing their bones nearby 🙂 I’m glad you’re having one of those simple, good days.

    And thank you. What you said about dignity and self-respect really stayed with me. Especially because through all of this, my husband has been nothing but supportive of me and completely devoted to taking care of me and our baby. I don’t want him to feel like he has to go toward someone who has made it very clear he isn’t willing to meet him halfway.

    The funny thing is, my dad is apparently spreading the news about Soraya to all of his people 😅 So yes, I’m sure on some level he is happy and proud to have a granddaughter. But that almost makes the whole thing stranger to me. Instead of focusing on the most important part — actually bonding with her, being present with us, and trying to make some kind of peace with us as a family — he has barely held her. I know he is very busy with work, which is the usual explanation, and then of course there is everything with my husband.

    I think that contradiction is part of what keeps my mind going back to it. It’s like the pride of becoming a grandfather is there, but the emotional work of actually being one — and of showing up for his daughter, granddaughter, and our little family — is much harder for him.

    And Anita, I’m really sorry for the absence of the mother you deserved. ❤️ I think no matter how much we learn to understand people and eventually accept what they are capable of giving us, there can still be a void where that safe person was supposed to be. I wish acceptance made that disappear completely, but I don’t think it always does. And I think there is something incredibly strong about you still creating the life you wanted and choosing to live differently, even while carrying that grief.

    Nea

    #460648
    Nea
    Participant

    Sorry I meant spreading the news is so random to all his people** autocorrected it

    #460649
    anita
    Participant

    Good evening, Nea 🙂

    I feel priviledged to know her name ✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️

    If I understand correctly, your father has been pridefully spreading the news that he has a grandaughter to people outside his home (outsiders), but he has barely held her in the privacy of his home, among the insiders.

    Based on what you shared earlier, he feels more comfortable being himself with his immediate family (those living under his roof), and he puts a social mask for outsiders.

    I believe that his pride is real, just that it doesn’t translate to a soft heart.

    Thank you for your empathy in regard to the absence of the mother I wished I had..

    It just ocurred to me that I used the past tense right above, “wished I had”. I think that I’m no longer wishing. I’m closer than ever to fully accepting who she has been since I came into her life (she was 20).

    I think you’re right: there’s something incredibly strong about me, thank you. That something incredibly strong is in you too, and in your husband.

    It’s the weak people who close their hearts and become rigid and unreachable, not because they were born weak, but because of a series of events and circumstances in their early lives.

    🌿 Anita

    #460660
    Nea
    Participant

    Good morning, Anita ❤️

    Thank you. And I’m sorry — her name is actually Maya. Autocorrect put the other name in my previous message. But yes, I’m very happy to share her name with you.

    I think what you said about my father makes a lot of sense. His pride in having a granddaughter may be very real, but I’m struggling with the fact that it hasn’t translated into the kind of emotional closeness or softness I hoped Maya would receive from him.

    Even right now, in the trenches of having a newborn, I hate that this is taking up space in my mind. It makes me so emotional, and I’m sure some of that is heightened by being postpartum too. I just wanted that warmth and emotional closeness from my family — not only for myself, but now for my daughter — and I don’t feel like I’m getting it in the way I imagined.

    Maybe it will simply take me time to fully understand and adjust to what is, rather than what I hoped it would be. My heart hurts sometimes, especially now that I’m a mother myself. I find myself feeling so deeply for children whose parents make their lives harder, and for single parents or parents who are raising children without much support. Becoming a mom has made me look at all of these things through such a different lens.

    And what you said about no longer wishing for the mother you wished you had really stood out to me. There’s something significant about reaching the point where you aren’t waiting for someone to become different anymore. I imagine that acceptance can carry grief with it, but also a kind of freedom.

    Thank you, too, for what you said about strength — in me and in my husband. I’m trying to remember that strength doesn’t always mean not being affected by something. Sometimes I think it’s feeling all of it and still choosing what kind of family and emotional environment you want to create going forward. ❤️

    Nea

    #460663
    anita
    Participant

    Good late morning, Nea ❤️

    What a beautiful name ✨️✨️✨️

    It’s a good thing that Maya doesn’t carry a longing for your father’s tenderness and softness.

    She is truly loved by her own parents.

    “There’s something significant about reaching the point where you aren’t waiting for someone to become different anymore”-

    I think that neither your father nor my mother has the emotional capacity to love another person in a tender, soft, close way.

    I don’t think he chooses to be cold and distant. I think he just doesn’t feel closeness in the way you or I feel. He can perform behaviors that appear soft and close though.

    I think it takes effort to perform these behaviors and that’s why he feels more comfortable being himself (not bothering to perform) at home.

    I’ll write more later.

    Anita

    #460665
    anita
    Participant

    Good early afternoon, Nea:

    “Becoming a mom has made me look at all of these things through such a different lens”-

    You are flexible; you have the capacity to grow, to learn and to change.

    But some people are so rigid, so set in their ways of thinking, feeling, and behaving, that they’re afraid that if they’ll change, they’ll break.

    Their lens of viewing the world around them are fixed for life, and becoming a parent or a grandparent does not make a dent in their fixed patterns and mental-emotional rigidity.

    Accepting what and who we can’t change, who does not have the capacity to change, to start hoping, to stop trying, relieves our stress and frees our energy to make a difference where and with whom you can.

    And yes, there is strength in you- your flexibility, the ability to learn and change is proof of that.

    ❤️ Anita

    #460666
    anita
    Participant

    * to stop hoping

    #460680
    Nea
    Participant

    Thank you, Anita ❤️

    The way you put things is always so helpful to me because it helps me see things for what they actually are, rather than getting stuck in trying to figure out how they should be or why someone can’t respond differently.

    Right now, I’m really just trying to focus on the baby and developing that cozy, safe little bond with her and enjoying this new bubble we’re in. But my mind still wanders ahead sometimes—to holidays, family gatherings, and what all of this means going forward—and I notice this weird anxiety come up. I have had generalized anxiety disorder growing up. Any suggestions on how to ease this feeling of anxiety?

    I think part of it is because I’ve always been the person who eventually tries to restore the peace. Even when I’ve felt that I had to bow down a little or let something go that I didn’t necessarily agree with, my thinking has often been, “Whatever, it’s not worth all of this tension—let’s just move on.” The relationship might still remain somewhat distant afterward, but at least that uncomfortable energy and awkwardness would be gone.

    This is the first time I’ve really been in a situation where I can’t control that outcome myself, because now it involves my husband too. If reconciliation or some kind of peace doesn’t come from him as well, I can’t force it, nor can I make that decision on his behalf. I think that loss of control over the usual “peacekeeping” role is probably part of what feels so unfamiliar to me.

    My mind also keeps going back to the fact that my father has helped us financially and has done meaningful things for us—for example, helping us with our first home, which really was something he did for me. I do appreciate those things, and I don’t want to erase them or pretend they meant nothing.

    But at the same time, I keep coming back to the fact that financial help and generous gestures don’t give someone permission to cross boundaries or treat people however they want. L

    I think I’m slowly learning how to hold both truths at once without feeling like I have to somehow make everything okay again.

    Nea

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