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April 16, 2022 at 12:01 pm in reply to: I unintentionally hurt an ex-partner. I am deeply struggling to forgive myself. #397983HelcatParticipant
Hi Bee
I’ll point out that your sister is a different person and she was still abused. Any child born to your parents would be abused.
We can create our own misery in life as adults. But as children we are innocent, should be loved and protected by loving parents. Unfortunately, not all children are lucky enough to be born to healthy loving families. Any misery caused by unhealthy abusive families is 100% their responsibility.
We cannot change the past, but I hope you can take solace in the fact that you are doing your best you can to handle things in healthier ways now.
Often, abused children learn abusive habits from their parents. This is an unfortunate reality. But you as have many others are choosing to reject the behaviours that you learned as a child. I think you are not giving yourself enough credit for the steps you have been taking.
I know that while I was being abused as a child I was very angry. I enjoyed fighting with other children. I bullied bullies because I couldn’t defend myself against my bully at home. It made me feel strong and powerful. But this aggression spread, I started lashing out at my friends when they told hurtful jokes. When I noticed that I was starting to hurt my friends I stopped it all because I didn’t want to turn out the same way as my mother.
We can only change when we are fully aware of our actions.
Let me ask you, what good is coming from you torturing yourself over your past behaviour? My concern as I mentioned before is that ruminating on this is a pattern of self-abuse for you.
I would also add that this world is inherently traumatic. Everyone makes mistakes, everyone has hurt someone unintentionally. Everyone has experiences of trauma by the time they become an adult. Whilst it is unfortunate that so many people experience pain, it is also a part of life. It is every adults responsibility to learn to manage their emotions and boundaries.
HelcatParticipantI would also add that when it comes to enlightenment, my understanding is that most often it occurs when we die.
It is often suggested that practice is to prepare for this moment in death.
I’m not suggesting that it can’t occur at other times.
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HelcatParticipantIt is my understanding that with a significant amount of practice depression can be overcome.
I have been reading some interesting texts written by masters recently and my understanding of this phenomena is slightly different.
Whilst we all have buddha nature, what I believe this means is not that we are all enlightened. But that we all are inherently good, have the facility to practice and make healthy changes. What practice does is train you to access buddha nature. Whereas for others that don’t practice buddha nature might be accessed infrequently.
As for ego, even masters have ego. It is part of the human experience and how we function.The key is not letting ego drive all decision making. Learning to let ego take a back seat because there is more than ego.
It is helpful to understand various concepts, but at the same time they are dualistic. These ideas both exist and they don’t. Often, what we learn to be true in one moment is no longer true in the next. It is my belief that we need to be fluid and not attach too much to concepts. They teach us lessons, not hard and fast rules.
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HelcatParticipantHi David
It might be reasonable to block her or not respond but you have already stated that you are refuse to do that.
This is why it is good to discuss alternatives.
How would you expect a future partner to react to your ex divulging these things? How does this make you feel?
You could take the power out of this threat simply by explaining to any future partners about that partner. How does the idea of doing that make you feel?
You could even talk to your employer and tell them that you have a disgruntled ex incase she tries to get in contact.
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April 12, 2022 at 2:55 pm in reply to: He cheated on his girlfriend with me, but dumped me for her in the end #397736HelcatParticipantI’m feeling calmer too! Things are quiet and peaceful at the moment. Long may it continue.
HelcatParticipantHi David
It sounds like you’re more concerned about her harassing your job and family than you are about both of your personal needs.
Perhaps there is a compromise somewhere in between answering her calls and texts, allowing her to freely vent and blocking her?
Would you be comfortable with saying something short politely setting your boundaries then ending a call? Similarly texting something short politely setting your boundaries could be a strategy.
She would likely be upset by the change but with repetition she would get used to it.
It would be important for the message to address her concerns about these new boundaries, apologise and recognise that this current relationship is unhealthy for both of you.
Are there any other strategies that you can think of?
April 11, 2022 at 3:09 pm in reply to: He cheated on his girlfriend with me, but dumped me for her in the end #397593HelcatParticipantHi David
It’s good to hear that you didn’t get bullied at school.
It’s not right that she’s threatening you. Do you think you can set some boundaries with her?
I’m sorry you’re having a hard time and feeling stressed out.
HelcatParticipantHi David
I’m so sorry I didn’t realise that you’d sent another message! It has been pretty hectic on my end recently. Thank you for sending another message. Please feel free to @ myusername with no space between the @, if you would like to talk. It will go straight to my email.
How are you feeling at the moment with the calls?
Did the other kids tease or bully you at school?
How would you feel about telling her the whole truth? Perhaps when you do it can finally be over? If you imagine the calls and such ending, how would you like it to end?
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HelcatParticipantHi Zeha
Good luck with your dream of become a stewardess! I hear that learning languages is very helpful for this career path. Do you plan on learning languages? This might be difficult without formal academic training. There are also schools that train you to become a stewardess.
Are you above 5 ft 6 and slim?
Do you have any experience in hospitality and customer service?
Do you have a plan for becoming a stewardess?
Did you know that being a stewardess is a high stress job? This might not fit with your goal of having a peaceful life and reducing anxiety.
I think your family will be happier and more accepting of your choice if you have a tangible path for how you plan on achieving this.
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April 9, 2022 at 5:33 pm in reply to: I unintentionally hurt an ex-partner. I am deeply struggling to forgive myself. #397425HelcatParticipantHi Bee
I just wanted to add that the impact of verbal abuse is significant. It directly relates to the difficulties that you are currently experiencing.
We absorb negative messages that people we care about tell us. These messages can become deeply embedded in our minds.
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April 9, 2022 at 5:11 pm in reply to: I unintentionally hurt an ex-partner. I am deeply struggling to forgive myself. #397423HelcatParticipantHi Bee
Thank you for sharing some more context! This is a good example of why context is important.
I’m glad that you did have some good times together. Your explanation does make sense. It think it’s very kind of you to have such empathy for someone that also hurt you.
I will point out that neither depression or Asperger’s make people verbally abusive. That is down to personality. Some of the things he said and did go beyond being blunt or a little rude.
As much as what he was trying to teach you what he learned in therapy, he still had a lot to learn himself.
It seems like you’ve taken the best of what you can from that experience, which is a healthy mindset.
I think it’s fair to say that neither of you were perfect, there were unhealthy elements on both sides. You were two young people with your own individual issues which weren’t exactly compatible.
Your growth and maturity are commendable Bee. You are not the same person you were back then. You should be very proud of how much you have achieved!
I would hope that your ex has grown and matured since then too. We all make mistakes, especially when we are young.
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April 9, 2022 at 4:45 pm in reply to: He cheated on his girlfriend with me, but dumped me for her in the end #397422HelcatParticipantIn the past, I asked him to let me make decisions when it came to my family. I don’t usually ask for his insight when it comes to making decisions. I think he was trying not to pressure me and there was a misunderstanding of what I was asking. He did give an answer after I clarified exactly what I was asking of him.
I don’t know, potentially. I think it’s complicated. I’ll have to think more deeply on it.
I’m the kind of person that when they make a decision I don’t take it back. That is why I haven’t acted yet.
I previously communicated with my family that the arguments were unhealthy and negatively impacted my mental health. So largely they stopped yelling and swearing. I give people chances and appreciate when people actively try to change.
April 9, 2022 at 2:46 pm in reply to: I unintentionally hurt an ex-partner. I am deeply struggling to forgive myself. #397415HelcatParticipantHi Bee
Telling someone who was abused that their trauma response as a result of their severe abuse comes off as an excuse is horrifically abusive!
It is true that you are responsible for learning to manage your emotions. It sounds like you have grown a lot. It’s true that accountability is important. But it is also true that the context of your behaviour and your intent is important.
That partner might have taught you some important lessons, but it’s very sad to hear the manner in which you received them. I think people deserve to learn these lessons through compassion.
Accountability and responsibility for managing emotions goes both ways, if they were “suffering” in the relationship they were free to leave at any point. Instead they chose to stay, criticising and shaming you under the guise of “helping” before ultimately choosing to do what they should have done long before it got to that point. Dating someone that has experienced severe abuse, who hasn’t yet learned to manage their emotions isn’t for everyone. It takes someone who is compassionate and secure in themselves.
I call BS on your ex being too afraid to say anything. Pardon my French. In my experience, people who are so heavily critical are not afraid of saying anything. The way you were treat legitimately makes me angry because you didn’t deserve it. I encourage you to read about verbal abuse.
From our communication, I have learned that you care about how you affect others, that when someone asks you to change a behaviour you try your hardest to do so. These things don’t always happen overnight and you were young, still trying to figure out how to function after being abused.
“everything in our relationship felt bad to them. the entire relationship is bad’ but they didn’t break up with me because they thought I was a great person.”
In my opinion, they didn’t break up with you because they got something out of the relationship. A sense of superiority. I’m going to disagree with Anita, based on the comments and experiences that you shared your ex doesn’t strike me as a good person.
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HelcatParticipantHi Lloyd!
It’s good to hear that you are finding it easier to centre yourself even while you’re in the midst of some challenging circumstances.
There are many types of self-care, from managing basic needs such as sleep, health, food, exercise, showering and socialising. To practicing self-soothing techniques like meditation, journaling or aromatherapy. Beyond that is any activity that you find relaxing or enjoyable such as treating yourself to your favourite food, watching a comedy and any hobbies. Even going to therapy is practicing self-care. Taking a break and saying no I’ll do something later when needed is also self-care.
Personally, I like the outdoors. I’m like a dog, I’ll be sad if I don’t go outside for my walk. I practice meditation and journaling. I enjoy reading and watching tv to relax. A scented candle is nice way to relax before bed. My husband found manly scented candles we both love! They have scents like beer and cigarettes and whisky. Also, I go to an acupuncturist and chiropractor to manage my health.
I think it’s always a good idea to include self-care in your daily routine. But when I’m feeling particularly stressed I tend to do one or two extra things since the goal of self-care is to help us manage our emotions.
Do you do any self-care activities already that you perhaps didn’t realise were self-care?
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