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ConfusedParticipantWell, she said to reduce activity in forums where i seek relief which is mostly reddit, so i think im gonna stick around for a little longer haha
I am trying since i left her office today, i feel “x” and my mind starts the analyzing but i try to change the thought. She said to just acknowledge it and why it happens (for example: i felt sad because i missed her and stop right there, not analyze why or how much i missed her and what that means, because this leads to spirals)
Well, i woke up in 12th november feeling the repulsion in my stomach as soon as i read her message, then panicking AF, so i put up a “show” trying not to hurt her until i figure things out. But i couldnt do it, so i confessed in 14th (ocd confession compulsion?) and ofc she got scared and hurt, so she pulled back hard. We decided to take a break for things to calm down but 5 days later i was missing her like crazy so i texted her and she told me that just me messaging her caused her one of the strongest panic attacks that she had in years. In that moment i felt like trash and i told her “i am very sorry for that, but imagine me telling u my issues and opening up and then u saying this”, felt like i was on the floor and she was kicking me. 10 days later while we were arguing again, trying to figure out what we should do, if we’re gonna meet, etc, i said something that triggered her (i dont remember what, but i didnt do it on purpose) and she said “im gonna erase u from my life as if i’ve never met u”. In that moment i felt an extreme pain in my stomach and i told her that i can’t perceive her as a “safe space” now and it’s ok to end things if she’d like, to which she panicked because she wasnt expecting that. (10 days later i flew out to meet her haha)
So idk if that played a big part but consciously i dont blame her since all this started because of me and she was just protecting her feelings.Today we got into a bit of an argument because she was feeling unheard and that i dont take her feelings into consideration and i told her we can talk when she feels ready and i’ll be there for her, i felt emotional and i told her “love u” in the end but then immediately regretted it and panicked a bit because i started questioning myself “why did i say that? i wasnt feeling it 100% (even tho i was crying the other day), i will lead her on, i will hurt her” and so on, to which she replied “did u mean that or will u make me punch u?” (jokingly ofc) and i thought “why wouldnt i mean it? do i mean harm to her? no, do i want her to be happy? yes, would i do things for her? of course, was i feeling like kissing/hugging her some days ago? yeah” so i told her that i meant it and then she proceeded on confessing her own love for me, how she feels and she said that if she feels that im angry at her (which ive never been), its like something gets ripped out from within her..and in that moment i cried and imagined me holding her face in my hands, looking deep in her eyes and kissing her, but this lasted for like 30 seconds and i instantly flipped to discomfort and flight mode 🙁
I also listened to a song that she sent me on my birthday today and i keep crying to it.
Anita, what is happening to me? its all so confusing haha, sorry for the long post
ConfusedParticipantTherapist also told me to slowly reduce relief-seeking behaviours (forums, feelings monitoring).
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Your nicknames are spot on haha
How is this possible? The only positive thing i can think of is to be more appreciative of the feelings IF they ever return..
Today therapist told me i should practice mindfulness and that when i feel something, i should notice it and then leave it there, not analyze it further.. Also, maybe my mind perceives the girl as a threat because our first big argument on November and what she said to me.
You know what’s weird? Before i woke up like this, when i would feel like i’m gonna lose her or upset her, i would try to win her like crazy (fawning), but now everything flipped, i am very quick to abandon ship first. I remember reading this on disorganized attachment (before i even knew that i had it) and i was like “wow, how is this possible?”. Well here we are
ConfusedParticipantYes it would. Also feeling things and finding motivation/reward/dopamine, etc, which is very lacking since november 🙁
Haha i would buy the advertised feelings!
This is what i should be doing and i know that, but it’s hard, it feels empty and pointless..
ConfusedParticipantFeeling feelings of love and longing, affection, excitement positive feelings in general.
Having those feelings and being happy haha
ConfusedParticipantI guess i have to learn ACT/CBT and stick to one decision, but it feels very weird and against my beliefs.
ConfusedParticipantIts very hard when the mind is in turmoil 🙁
Oh i know, its just a false sense of security and control..
ConfusedParticipantHmm, so all that could have begun when i woke up feeling like shit, not having energy/mood for anything or anyone and immediately thinking that im gonna lose her? So that “control” started?
But how can i relax the pressure its like unknown for me 🙁
ConfusedParticipantI know i had told her that after november but she said that she needs to know about some things to open up.
She is very honest and one of the most loving/caring people ive met.
When i think of ending contact with her, seeing her messages, her gifts, thinking that i might not receive anything else from her again and this is the last time just shatters me, i cry even typing that now. I think i dont wanna lose her but i feel like i cant keep her right now because im hurting her, its really tough.
Well, how is it possible to be 24/7 attached and not feel in love and happy and be so numb? This drives me nuts!
Something needs to change, but what would that be? I think the only issue here is mine. I dont feel worthy of love because i can’t feel love right now..
That quote fits my question indeed.
Well, we don’t know how we would feel being apart.
ConfusedParticipantBtw, i’ve never felt like i missed someone in my life, that worries me. Also idk how love is supposed to feel like.
And i can’t feel like i “care”, not for her, not for anyone right now. That makes me doubt my past intentions/feelings with her.
Sorry for triple posting, there is no edit button
ConfusedParticipantAlso, me being triggered by her so much, thinking about her 24/7, crying sometimes, show some level of attachment/bond,no?
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Right? your post is spot-on. We’ve been doing this since the beginning, discussing about our fears/preferences and stuff and then sometimes “arguing” over things that dont exist and might never do! I get it that it’s a way for her feeling secure but i told her “would u rather me telling u a bunch of lies or letting u know how im having a hard time with myself in the past months and being truthful?”
I feel inadequate after the november incident, before that i was so sure of myself (because of the feelings being present)
I am trying to remove pressure but right now things are not looking too good. She has some health problems that weigh her down and she’s being distant since our conversation yesterday and me being triggered. I texted her today to ask how she’s feeling with her issues and our convo was feeling like a job interview, i would ask, she would answer. So eventually she went to sleep and i told her that its ok if she’s not feeling like talking and she shouldnt force it, to which she answered “i dont wanna complain all the time, and i am getting the same vibe from u”, i was like “whaaaat?” i tried many times to spark a convo but her replies gave no effort. Perhaps that’s her taking it slower, more chill/laid back.
Anyway my avoidance feels even more triggered now and my body screams to get away but i will ignore that because i think that’s the insecurities talking. I thought of my plans/dreams i’ve had with her during the summer and how warm and loving i felt for her and i cried before, like how did that all vanish overnight?!.. After all, this whole ordeal is not her fault, it started from me.
Today i rode the motorcycle again and went to chill and BBQ with friends but i was feeling so empty and numb, detached, like i was watching everyone having fun from a distance, a bystander. Meanwhile my mind was constantly focused on her.
Could anhedonia had started all these, anita?
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Its not me being cautious, its more about me being realistic and trying to remove the weight of “expectations” from both of us so we can enjoy each other’s company without feeling like we have to know what’s gonna happen in the next two years, rather take it slowly and see how it unfolds.
I am a night owl, gonna go to sleep now haha, good night/morning, will check again in 12 hours 🙂
ConfusedParticipantI just saw your post.
I understand what u mean but that’s the reality and whoever refuses to see it is delusional for me. I’m all in for romance and stuff but the truth is we dont know how we click on a daily basis (i had told her this since the beginning), how we react to each other, etc, so she rushes to step 5 for example, while we havent even gone through the 2nd step. For all i know, she could be the one rejecting me in the end after we meet and decide to try, no? I told her that she basically seeks control by trying to predict the future, by bringing up “possible issues that might arise” without them having present themselves and that robs us of the present moments and the experience we could be having. For example, instead of us planning our next meet, what we gonna visit/do and enjoy it in general, we discuss about future “issues” that MIGHT happen and thats something i remember us doing since the early days, i guess this was us trying to feel “safer” by reassuring each other with theories. I told her that things could be very different from what we gauge through online communication and we should just live and enjoy the moments now, rather than worrying about “what could happen”.
Well, i basically felt like im not enough and i cant give her what she needs and that she’s preparing to leave me (this were mostly my insecurities talking, i told her that) and this triggered my avoidance hard. She said that she’s not gonna just leave out of the blue because she has feelings for me and she never meant to make me feel inadequate, but i explained to her that this is MY issue to fix and she has nothing to do with it, also i would find it completely reasonable for her to not feel satisfied with me at the moment and that it’s ok to ask for more.
ConfusedParticipantYes but the subject changed because we are discussing more things.
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