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ConfusedParticipantHey anita, i read both your replies.
I think she made it public because she tagged her siblings and if they want to repost the stories, ppl that don’t follow her (their friends) will not be able to see the stories, it will be just a black error-screen so i figured she made it for this reason.But still my mind spiraled.
U are right that this fear predates her but i guess now it is activated by her.
Reading that leaving her will be healthier/better for me doesn’t feel good, it makes me feel uneasy/wrong. I don’t think i wanna leave her, i had dreams with her, i felt like i finally found the girl that i was dreaming of, do things together, be my romantic self without being judged, being loved and cared for and so many more things 🙁 I don’t wanna blow it all and hurt her deeply because i am triggered or burnt out. I wanna fight and figure this out. If i fell for her once, why wouldn’t i be able to do it again? If i get better and actually want to leave, i think that’s the best time to make that decision. But like i said in the past, if i leave her, i dont wanna deal with relationships ever again. I will stop working on my traumas since i wont care, no motivation will be left for me, i would be done with romance. It’s not like i want to be with someone else, i am not interested in other girls, i really felt like i found what i wanted but i can’t experience it right now with all this 🙁
I tried what copilot’s saying now and i’ve tried in the past again, but nothing comes up.
ConfusedParticipantFear of abandonment=fear of losing HER specifically or just being abandoned? Does it mean that i want her or i just don’t want to be abandoned? But i think if it wasn’t for the specific person i wouldn’t feel that fear,right? I also made another scenario in my head, tomorrow she’s going to Metallica live in Berlin, so why did she make her profile public today? So she can post stories and tag/location to be seen by randoms? But she’s not like that (or so she made me believe?) a week ago she told me she loves me..
Oh and how do we do this exactly anita?
ConfusedParticipantYes and that happened now too! A friend of mine told me that while searching for someone he saw my girl’s profile on instagram being public (she had it private a day or two ago) and as soon as i heard that my stomach clenched. I started wondering why would she do that? She posted a story with her siblings and tagged them today and my mind says “maybe she did it to attract men from her siblings profiles”, but then the feeling vanished and i was like “why did i get that feeling?”
But i never had this issue again in the past, idk what’s up now.
Idk, i dont really feel like i don’t put myself first, i mean, what do i not do that i need?
ConfusedParticipantOh i see what u mean. I think i mostly want to feel it for myself first, because i think that’s how i will feel good and okay.
But for how long? I dont enjoy anything, i want the 2025 back 🙁
ConfusedParticipantOh anita, why would i not feel absolute joy and contentment having such an amazing girl loving me and being so caring to me.She’s such a sweetheart and i wanted nothing else than to kiss her all over her pretty face before this happened 🙁
Actually in december too, while holding her i would hug her so tight and kiss her hands, forehead, lips, eyes, etc and i would feel like shouting from excitement! (while my mind was telling me “u are fooling her, u will leave her” “u are faking it”)
Now it’s like none of this matters, i can’t imagine anything romantic or feel it, like this self of mine has gone dark.. only void and vanity remains.
ConfusedParticipantNo no, it is the opposite, i can’t how that felt, my mind “removed” it, like a distant cognitive memory, no emotional charge, that goes for my whole life pretty much 🙁
Yes some days have been fun but i constantly ask from myself to be enthusiastic, miss her, be crazy about her, etc, otherwise it’s hard to feel it.
I know it does but i can’t really stop it, no matter what i do, play games, watch movies, be out with friends, ride the motorcycle , nothing works. All i do is think and ruminate and when i don’t i feel bad for not doing it lol.
Yes we did talk about those two, what do u mean changing thinking=changing feelings? About drugs, i am still not comfortable idk, maybe Wellbutrin but i need to find someone to prescribe that for me..
Yes, the therapist suggested CBT-ERP mostly, she constantly says i should really master CBT and slowly eliminate compulsions but she knows it’s difficult.
ConfusedParticipantThank you anita
Hmm yeah you are right, we said that again and yes, this was the first one to move me like that.. but u know i can’t even remember that right now, everything is so long ago or my brain has just disconnected me 🙁
Today i feel very bad, so disconnected from everything and everyone, i can’t enjoy anything, can’t focus on anything, feel empty and alone in my house and idk what’s the problem. All i know is i can’t stop thinking of her, from the minute i wake up. I constantly look in the past and try to find what changed or reminisce about how good i used to feel. I know that’s a compulsion/rumination but its hard to stop.
Hours ago i was thinking about her and i was like “what? who is this girl even? why am i so obsessed with her?” not like i don’t “know” who she is, but it’s something different i can’t explain it.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I relate with almost everything copilot said and i understand it, but what i don’t understand is why is this happening for months on-end? Why now? What is this trying to tell me? Maybe it’s not trying to tell me anything and it’s just a protection mechanism designed to keep u away from closeness or building deeper foundations/intimacy? I can’t understand what’s happening.
Today i feel more numb than ever, we were texting and i was feeling dysphoria and a burden.I hate it.Paulien timmer also says that doubts are a protection mechanism of the FA
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
You are right, i can’t be sure of anything ever again. Whenever i feel/do something the doubts & questions arise, that’s the OCD i think..
ConfusedParticipantOh then yes, i was already scanning/being hyper-aware and very afraid of losing her before november.
Thats what i thought when u talked about middle grounds in buddhism.
But how can i kick this part out of me or silence it? I dont need it 🙁
Also how can i know if it’s this for sure? I think it all began since that future-convo 🙁I used to believe in love fairytales, that love will save me and i will be complete
ConfusedParticipantTherapist also said she thinks i have an inner judge that has some high requirements/standards about love, relationships, how i should be feeling, etc and comes online right after i feel something. But that has never happened again in the past.. She said it could be because my previous relationships were mostly superficial and this one requires foundations. I literally have no clue
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Hmm u mean even before November? could be yeah..
Haha that’s also what my therapist was saying yesterday. I was telling her about my somatic reactions (to the post, her superior hitting on her, etc) and she basically said that the feeling IS there, but i “choose” not to acknowledge it because it’s not the extreme infatuation or the other extreme, fear of loss/rejection, so it goes unnoticed by my mind and i should try to accept the middle grounds because even herself (she used herself as an example), said: Now i think about my boyfriend leaving me, which i love so much, and i can’t feel anything because the situation is not right/fitting, we can’t “order” feelings, they come when the time is right or if the situation demands it.
I feel good knowing that someone understands me because i definitely don’t haha.
Yesterday i was feeling much better, texting with her was so much fun and i even felt some warmth and loving feelings (i think?? what is love?)
What bothers me is this:
Almost a year ago when i would be falling for her i would see in her all i wanted in a girlfriend. She’s sweet, kind, loving, caring, smart, great sense of humour, communicates, shares deep feelings, she’s damn pretty, i love her eyes, her smile, her voice, her hair, her neck, damn even her hands/feet look great to me (things i would never pay attention to in previous girls). She was lighting candles and praying for me to be safe, even got me a guardian bell for the motorcycle. I would say to myself, “wow, how did i find this gem”, i wanna share my life with her, be there for her, hold her in my arms when she shares her deepest vulnerabilities and insecurities with me, have her in my arms until she falls asleep and then wake up kissing her warm lips, hugging her warm body, go on trips with her, surprise her at work, bring her coffee/food, pick her up and go on small trips without her knowing.
All the above were things i would think about constantly until November and i would feel so good, so hopeful and happy. But now nothing gets through to me, nothing “touches” me, none of the above. I can still see she’s pretty and a great person but nothing moves me, i am unfazed. It’s like this part of is gone.. and it’s not like i wanna experience it with another girl, no. It’s like my whole “romantic identity”, me being a “boyfriend” is vanished. And i can’t fathom because this is who i used to be my whole life, i was dreaming of finding a girl like her that likes so many things that i like and have all those qualities.. 🙁
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
The other AIs say that too but in the past 2-3 days i feel so indifferent and i don’t like it.. maybe it’s the numbness u are describing because of the constant alert-scanning-obsessing for months on end.
Yes i am trying to stick it out because of how amazing i used to feel and because she’s a sweetheart that i know, logically, i would like to have, it’s hard but im trying 🙂
I think i am pretty much the same as you in the shutdown department, tons of stress, uneasiness, dysphoria and mind being 200% active even when i sleep. Your reply is pretty much copilot’s one without so much analysis.
Conscientious is the right word yeah, i had forgotten how to type it too haha.
Thank your the responses from copilot anita 🙂
ConfusedParticipantYes i’ve always been hypervigilant in almost every area of my life, even when driving i will think ahead that maybe an accident is gonna happen to me. I always thought it was low confidence or something..
I think that’s exactly what happened to me in November, waking up flat, panicking and then burnt-out by obsessing and also hiding stuff from her because how can u tell ur person that u can’t even type a whole sentence? that u forget words within seconds and u can’t give them yesterday’s energy? Especially in our case which was so delicate.. I will never disappear, even if we split i want to always be there for her because she’s a great person and she deserves it, she is always so loving and kind to me 🙂
Yes it surprised me too that i didn’t feel triggered to bolt, i guess it’s because i know what she’s going through and i am not the one to abandon.Hmm how did u go through it anita? Did u feel things or felt differently?
I just want to feel like before with her, to enjoy our connection without all this numbness, anxiety, overthinking etc. 🙁
Also now i can’t feel sadness or cry with her gifts and her chocolates and that worries me.. Maybe it’s because we’re good and i dont “have to” ?Something else that i might have told u again tho, i’ve never missed anyone in my life and sometimes i think that i am incapable of that, except if someone offers me something..
ConfusedParticipantI also reminded her of all the reasons i fell for her and how amazing she is to me 🙂
She got my gift for her nameday and she cried a lot because of my letters and how i got her something that she had already on her wishlist for 2 years without me actually knowing anything about it!
Yesterday i was also reminscing on how amazing our little thing was, how we would feel while while interacting with each other and i would tear up.. my best buddy and baby girl 🙁
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