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  • in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458622
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    Hey anita

    Oh yes i read those things but the issue is, when i think about doing texting her in the day for example, i get this weird uneasiness and sometimes dysphoria because it feels like im forced to text her. Its very weird. I also feel like i dont miss her, well, cant miss someone u think about 24/7, but still shouldn’t i be feeling like i miss her if we dont talk for a day? I mean isnt this the normal thing? 🙁

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458613
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    I am still not sure what those random thoughts mean but i try to ignore them and not give them power.

    The call was great, we had such fun and the fact that i could even fantasize about nice scenarios felt very good! 🙂

    How can i fix this emotional permanence? Maybe i will never get rid of it and i am gonna have to learn to live with it? They say it’s a thing in ADHD, which i suspect i might have, Or in attachments like copilot said. Yesterday i was feeling like i would enjoy her so much having her around or in my life 🙁

    The first thing copilot says “when it’s not shown” feels right for me, because i am so hyper vigillant that if she doesn’t show me anything i imagine that something is wrong immediately, like a reflex.

    I feel like if i don’t text her one day or two she will get hurt or leave. But i constantly think of her.. what is going on!

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458599
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    Could i be having some issues with emotional permanence? Maybe u can ask copilot about that anita 🙂

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458598
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    Hey anita

    I too think that this is the case, because my brain craves intensity and highs, also when there is silence u can’t control it, but i think im retraining it now.

    We videocalled for 8 hours yesterday, it went amazing! The moment her camera opened i saw her and i went like “WOW, so damn beautiful” (no exaggeration) and she blushed. We had so much fun, we did some skin care that she had sent me in my birthday gift and we laughed a lot haha. I was calling her baby and sweet names almost all the time because it felt natural, unlike in texts where i overthink, and it seemed weird. I so wanted to grab her and kiss her everywhere! I even had strong sexual urges during the whole videocall (sorry for TMI, just wanna give u an idea) and i was wondering how is this possible! I just felt and visualized hugging her tightly and just laying in bed with her and i was admiring her face/body. There were some moments that my brain went “now u will get bored of her” but i would brush them off saying in my head “ok so what?”, also i got this visual distortion once on her face but i looked elsewhere and it went away. We expressed how our avoidant sides get triggered and why. I would still feel that she’s not 100% invested but that’s normal with what we’ve been through. I told her “i hope we are not silent when we meet and be like in the videocall” haha. Something else which seemed weird is that i like her “family circle” so much. They little things they do, the group chats (with grandmas, uncles, parents and stuff), how they care for each other, their communication, i like all those things so much and i didnt even think i would ever pay attention to such things, some could even say im envious but in a good way, i admire them and i enjoy it so much when she tells me stories from their group chats! I also had some spontaneous thoughts like “wow, i like this girl so much and i wanna be with her that i actually might have to consider moving to another country for her” and it felt calm/logical, something i would come to terms with.. Overall we had a great time. But now, next day, i still get the “weird feelings” here and there, my brain saying that she’s not 100% in it and i’ll get hurt if she leaves, but everyone can leave, so it’s not a rational fear/thought. Also i notice that because i can’t see her, like in videocalls, my internal state kinda changes towards her but i should learn to accept it and not give it value!

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458581
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    Hey anita

    Sometimes i feel like im stabilizing, but im still expecting that in-love feeling of the beginning and it feels off after 🙁

    That’s how my thoughts feel like, as if they are shifting my reality and give me what ifs.

    So i probably got it right, it’s mental exhaustion and defenses, but it’s so weird because i’ve never been with a girl without “those” feelings to guide me or make me stay. It’s very strange because then the “why am i with her” questions arise and it’s as if all her positive traits don’t matter to me.

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458579
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    Hey anita

    Probably yes, i did feel attached to her yesterday, enjoyed our convo a lot 🙂

    I have read about intrusive thoughts but those felt so real and disorienting, they completely pulled me out of the experience..

    I think i would be fine with trying to live in cyprus, like i said, i’ve been there before, we speak the same language, better salaries, climate is pretty much like greece, better gas prices so i can ride the motorcycle more haha, not much different than greece in other aspects. But maybe she will want to move her after she visits, who knows? 🙂

    Yes i didn’t feel like i could rely on anyone, that’s why i wasn’t telling them anything either, felt like they wouldnt help. I dont blame them, maybe i should have been more open too but idk..

    I read copilot’s words and it seems like science fiction indeed! Maybe i am still recovering from the burnout and i can’t handle strong feelings? They are right indeed, i didnt feel like i could rest and this followed me until today. I am always hyper-aware of everything. I also believe that all my romantic partners will eventually leave, very hard to fully trust and let go, even tho this one is still here through it all 🙂
    See what my mind does, before i went to sleep today (which was morning) she posted a story on her close friends group, i didn’t watch it because i wanted to sleep. I woke up, close-friends story is gone, there is a normal story instead. I felt a sinking feeling in my stomach, immediately interpreted it as if “she removed me from close friends list, something is wrong” even tho she could have just deleted the story, because there are no indications that she would do that, we ended the night very affectionately and we scheduled videocall for tonight, but my mind still expects rejection. But i could just brush it off after 15-20 minutes and the thought is not affecting me anymore, which i think is a good thing, no?

    Something else, i was fantasizing her coming here, us going on a small trip with my motorcycle in a close town with waterfalls. I pictured her standing next to the waterfalls staring at them and me going behind her and hugging her, kissing her cheek and just stand there. It did feel pretty good not gonna lie, but normally when i would imagine such things with the girls i was with previously, i would get another,stronger feeling. Which i can’t get after November with her..and i am trying to find out what this is.
    Is it from the mental exhaustion that i went through all these months? Is it because the infatuation is gone and it evolved into something calmer? Is it because something is “missing” ? Or is it my own defenses which i can’t let down because i can’t “invest” in this relationship fully for some reason?? I would really like to find out!

    Thank you anita for your efforts 🙂

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458574
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    Hey anita, something else i forgot to mention about today.

    Like i said, it was very enjoyable, talking to her, had some fun/etc, we included each other in our day, she asked my opinion on what flowers to get and what drink for tomorrow, i asked hers on something else and “took her with me” during my activities. Overall felt nice 🙂

    But a couple hours ago my mind suddenly went “why do i want her? why am i with her?” and that instantly made me feel disconnected. Then an hour later i felt like she’s not real, what we have isn’t real, what we said today wasn’t real. Wow, so disorienting!

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458572
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    Hey anita

    I am honoured that u feel this way even from afar, same here 🙂

    You are right, maybe i was asking too much from myself. I think i got pinned between either leaving my home or leaving her and since i didn’t want either, i froze maybe? Or could be just burnout idk, but it seemed so coincidential.

    Indeed, that’s why we got a hard landing, but my initial plan was to have fun and spend time together, then see where this leads. Perhaps i was too caught up in the romance/fantasy that i didn’t really got the logistics into account. Not that it was the time for those, even tho i had those worries in the back of my mind for the distant future but still.

    I used to be very attached to my father and my grandmother (my mother’s mom), but after 13 or so, i detached, buried myself into gaming and online fantasy-worlds (MMORPG games, building communities in other games and stuff).

    I think he disappointed me because of the fights, arguments, violence that him and my mother brought into my life. Could be that he left sometimes too. For example, imagine me, 9 years old being on vacation at our second house (rural area, somewhat of a big village, my father used to drop us there as soon as i would finish school year and he would visit on his vacation days from work) waiting for him to come so he would take us to the beach, go-karts, bicycling, football (i used to play football from 5 to 14 y.o), let me drive his car around the empty field next to our house, take me to the zoo and spend time with him in general. Then all of a sudden, during his first or second day there, a fight breaks out between him and my mom and next thing i know, he’s packing his stuff going back to our main house in the city, doesn’t talk to me or if he did, he would say “ask ur mother” and my mother would just blame him and say all kinds of wrong things about him. All my dreams and plans would crash, the house would feel “awkward” for some days as a result of the aftermath, he would sometimes tell my mother that he’s not coming to take us back, then my mother would tell her cousin to take us home (in the end of vacation) and sometimes he would come, but still, i was expecting another fight returning home because of the things that happened before. Now that i read all that, it did feel like a minefield and i’m glad it’s in the past now. The other thing could be that nobody talked to me about emotions and stuff. I was “expected” to do things as an older son, take care of the garden, help my mother in chores and many more. So after 13 i would start drinking during our summer vacations with my friends. We would get drunk every other day with heavy liquor like vodka (Jin is my favorite haha), i was setting fires, stealing, ruining people’s houses sometimes, just because. I was lucky i never got caught and i stopped all that (except alcohol) at around 16 because i think i was smart enough to do that and not get dragged along with the rest of my then friends.
    I think i gave u a pretty good summary of my early years haha, never done that before actually and it stirred some memories 🙂

    I am giving it a chance this time because it feels better actually. I think they say 4-6 weeks until u see the benefits. Today i messaged her to check up on her (she hit her arm pretty badly) and we texted for 8 hours back n forth, like the good old times. At some point i even got a little excited for us to meet or videocall (we will videocall tomorrow) and i enjoyed talking to her. I think it’s just i don’t have the “blind infatuation” now and i actively choose her, something i’ve never done in my life before and it feels strange/scary.

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458563
    Confused
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    Hey anita

    Always, since u are so helpful and put in so much effort 🙂

    I am not sure 100% but i did feel something shift inside me in that talk. Maybe it just burst my bubble and put me face to face with the technical difficulties and i wasn’t quite ready for that, had to keep the infatuation a bit longer haha.

    Hmm no no i’ve never felt “attached” to my parents or family/friends. I’ve always said that if i want a girl enough, i would move countries for her if her job is better/more career oriented.

    I think kiddo-confused is disappointed at him.But at the same time recognizes his efforts and what he went through.

    Hmm, u think this was what put me in that state? The future plans about this? It could have because i would find myself in a difficult situation, facing a new beginning to a new country (hypothetically) and losing her if she wouldn’t agree on coming to greece (which by her then-reply, she didn’t seem that eager to explore this option, but it was so soon still)

    I think the drug is working or it’s placebo? I feel calmer, still not feeling in love but i feel overall more at ease. Which i don’t necessarily like because it feels like numbness? Or idk.. We shall see i guess.

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458541
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    Oh and btw, i dont wanna take the Olapine because it makes me feel like a zombie and almost paralyzes my functions for the next 24 hours..I will stay on tepram though (esciralopram) and see how it goes in the next month ..

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458540
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    Hey anita

    Thank you very much for this detailed response and the time and effort u took transfering all these back and forth with copilot, i appreciate it 🙂
    I had forgot some of the things i wrote to u in the past months. I am trying to make sense out of all those things, even tho they do seem reasonable, i would think that us, being grown ass adults, would be able to differentiate between our old homes and the new relationships.

    But now the relationship is far from calm, i have hurt her so much and she now told me that she started seeing things logically rather than emotionally (idk what that means) but what i notice is, sometimes i feel like something is stopping me from letting myself be fully in it with her, a thought that she’s not really invested in me so i can’t really do that. And i think the first time i felt that was during that talk about moving countries in november, where i would feel like my brain physically shift, like u put ur hand inside and moved it. Maybe it was the moment that she demolished my romance..but how do i move past this? How do i get out of the dorsal vagal freeze? Sometimes i feel trapped because i can’t move forward and i dont wanna let her go either, i wanna be like before and enjoy my time with her, i want to feel warmth and affection towards her, i dont want anybody else 🙁

    Hmm the overwhelming part i think it happens now when my energy is low and i have to answer texts AND be present with friends. But my irritation goes for my sisters/father too, it’s with everyone and everything like im a grumpy old dude. How to get out of this state and let love flow through me again? I could only access it 2-3 days ago when she was talking about leaving me. It’s not fair.

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458519
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    Hey anita, appreciate all ur effort and the responses 🙂

    Copilot’s words do make sense to me yes but i can’t understand how can we not differentiate between people and situations, its very weird!

    I did say it yes, it was when i was 18 years old.

    Both of them were loud and aggressive, my mother was more hot-headed and instigated more of the fights.

    He left plenty of times but i dont remember if i was worried. He would usually leave the vacation house and go back to our normal house, sometimes he would leave the house and to his mother. For some months he even moved out and rented another appartment.I was 13-14 or something i think.

    Yes i have no problem answering, its just sometimes i might not recall things because its been a while.

    Yesterday i was at a city event with a friend and i was feeling extremely irritated by everything, him, the event, myself. And she texted me some nice reels and i felt irritation even at her. Almost the whole day my mind would be like “i dont want u, dont talk to me” and i would just type out sentences answering to hers, trying to make jokes and hide my irritation and i would want the conversation to end, like i want to get rid of her. I went to the psychiatrist after the therapist and he prescribed me again with Tepram (escitalopram) and Olapine 5mg (mild anti-psychotic) and he told me i have no other option left since i’m still like that and the thoughts race through my head. I should follow this treatment and i will see benefits within a month. I took the pills yesterday at night and olapine made me extremely sleepy and tired. I did wake up feeling more rested but my lack of feelings still persists. I can’t feel anything positive while thinking of her and it feels so final and real, like that’s it. I can’t feel any sadness either. Even tho 2 days ago i was feeling jealous and was amazed by her beauty and stuff, today it feels like im done, as if she’s done something bad to me. Damn i dont wanna be like that, i want to feel love again 🙁
    I am thinking of skipping olapine and stick to tepram only, even tho the doctor said i should take them both.

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458492
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    Oh also today, i noticed something. I was out with my friend working on my motorcycle and i was sending her pictures of the process since i know she enjoys it and i do too. But while i was taking breaks from working on my bike (some breaks were unnecessary and i took just to text her back because i was feeling bad i wasn’t replying, even tho she’s never complained), i noticed myself getting more ansy and irritated by her, even tho i was the one that initiated the convo and sent her pictures and all and she’s never complained about me not replying, she’s always so encouraging for me dumping my phone and stop answering her when i’m socializing/working and that makes me even more upset now because i have no excuse to be upset! haha i hope u get what i mean. So the spiral began, i would get more and more thoughts of “u don’t love her, u are leading her on, u will break her heart” and then i feel dysphoria with the breakup thoughts.
    I went home, took a shower, we kept texting and i felt better eventually. But even when i laugh with her my mind just notices it and goes “well, did u laugh enough?”, crazy!
    Later she told me about a guy replying to a story of hers (the one that left my jaw hanging when i saw her beauty) asking her for information about the place she was at in the photo. My heart started racing and i felt heat in my head again, i expressed my jealousy and we had a small convo about those things and how he’s not just “asking for info” and she acknowledged it and comforted me. She said “u are the only thing i want”, and as soon as i read that i thought “she’s so amazing and loves me so much, why am i not feeling elated? Shouldn’t i be feeling cloud9?” which was again, the same thought pattern i had back in november when i read her poem and something inside me shook and started noticing myself and my feelings for the first time ever what a coincidence huh? Also rings a bell with my father expressing his love towards me and i can’t feel anything? But the latter could be because of the years of violence i witnessed between him and my mother so i disconnected from them both.

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458491
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    Hey anita

    Yes, i think this relationship invokes deep feelings for me, but since November they are fleeting, which is weird. Could be burnout/depression covering everything too. I feel like she’s such a baby at times, i wanna hold her in my arms, kiss her gently and stroke her hair.. But all this can snap in one moment and i feel like “no no, i can’t stand her, i got to get out!”
    Some hours ago, we were texting and i asked her opinion about a mirror i want to install in my house and she said “i like it, maybe i will use it to snap some pictures of me while im there” and i looked at this text and my head went “of course my sweet baby, take as many pictures as u like..” and i teared a little because she’s so innocent and unaware of the torment inside my head and i thought “why cant i melt for the best woman i’ve ever met that loves me so much?” 🙁

    Yes i adored him but i can’t remember why or how it felt, it feels like it was a different self and now i am so distant and different, i guess the situations changed me.

    Hmm, how can i reach this part and speak to it maybe, then? I can’t grasp the concept/feeling of what u are saying tho, is it like a conscious thing that u visualize or u just feel it?

    Yes he is alive and we are in contact, we live next door actually. There is nothing wrong between us, but i can’t show him love or any affection whatsoever. Not just him, i couldn’t do it with anyone in the family, maybe with my grandma a little bit but with the rest, i dont feel anything. He is so desperate for our love tho because not even my sisters can express feelings towards him. But he does it a lot everyday, he hugs us and we just stand still, frozen, but he came to terms with it, its just how we are. He tells us he loves us but we say nothing back. I do feel bad at times but i can’t help it, it’s just how i feel or how i’m built i guess. I have cried for him some times in the past though, i can feel his pain and longing sometimes but i can’t reciprocate. He says he’d die for us but i can’t feel nothing. I know i would take a bullet for my family too, but i can’t “feel” anything else, love, affection, etc. I can only feel those for romantic partners and for pets.

    I dont mind answering ur questions anita, i am starting to see u as a big sister that tries to help me at the same time 🙂

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #458483
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    Hey anita

    I think it’s love yes,even tho i dont have anything to compare it to, when i was texting her those things i was crying and i was feeling like i wanna hug her tightly and not let go, but i was willing to let her go even tho it would hurt me deeply, if it means she will be better off. I break down in tears even writing this here. I feel like i would always want to be there for, support her and have my arms open whenever she needs it.

    How would i find this version and calm it? It feels surreal.

    Yes i was very attached to him, i remember missing him a lot, running to hug him when he would return from trips, staying up at night waiting for him sometimes, hug him, sleep with him, i have some fragments of even me wanting to shower with him so we would play with water. He would take me to rides with our bicycles, teach me how to drive when i was 6 years old, teach me about gardening, taking me to football practices, swimming, basically almost every skill i have today, he taught me.

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