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PeterParticipant
Ah yes, fake it till you make it. That can work in certain situations, however my feeling is that its best to be genuine. That said learning to be better at communication and engaged with others takes practice so going in with the perspective of let’s see what works could be a less stressful approach then needing to be perfect every time. (A curse of being an introvert is a tendency to need to be perfect and not to “embarrass” ourselves.) Your written communication is very strong as is your engagement in your post, so you have a lot to work with.
I always hated the ‘speak up more in meetings’ comment on my reviews. I have learned to speak up in a meeting when I have something to say but for the most part I play the role of active listener. Making eye contact every now and then with who ever is speaking, leaning towards them (not in a creepy way) and nodding and smiling when appropriate. In this way I remain engaged even when quite. Funny side affect, it has been pointed out to me that often in a meeting people will be “talking” to me. To be candid I’m hard of hearing so I have to be a active listener but my managers don’t need to know that. ?
You have additional challenge if your dealing with customers. Again, being an active listener can help with engagement. This is not about faking it but being genuine… assuming you care about your customers, which I bet you do. Such interactions are a great place to practice compassion while maintaining one’s personal boundaries. As an introvert you likely have developed a natural empathy and its ok to let that show.
PeterParticipantIt reads to me as your not 100% sure what your boss means by being more engaged at work or what that might look like.
I work with IT and introverts are more the norm then exception so its confusing to me that a manager would not recognize this reality… and its benefits. (ref ‘Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking’ by Susan Cain)
Is there anything specific about your work that your boss wants you to improve or is it all inter-personal issues? As an observer looking in you need more specific instruction and goals to work towards.
At least one-third of the people we know are introverts. They are the ones who prefer listening to speaking; who innovate and create but dislike self-promotion; who favor working on their own over working in teams. It is to introverts—Rosa Parks, Chopin, Dr. Seuss, Steve Wozniak—that we owe many of the great contributions to society.
In Quiet, Susan Cain argues that we dramatically undervalue introverts and shows how much we lose in doing so. She charts the rise of the Extrovert Ideal throughout the twentieth century and explores how deeply it has come to permeate our culture. She also introduces us to successful introverts—from a witty, high-octane public speaker who recharges in solitude after his talks, to a record-breaking salesman who quietly taps into the power of questions. Passionately argued, superbly researched, and filled with indelible stories of real people, Quiet has the power to permanently change how we see introverts and, equally important, how they see themselves.
PeterParticipantAmma
So sorry to hear about your loss. It breaks my heart
PeterParticipantHi Priya
What if… two words at the source of so much suffering. Would it help to know that 99% of our what ifs never happen? Or that of the “ifs” that did happen you dealt with and survived? Probably not. We feel what we feel. However, we don’t have to attach ourselves to the emotions or thoughts. Notice how past embarrassments faded in time. Other stuff happened, and your focus went else where.
When I am embarrassed, I feel it, beat myself up, all the usual stuff… while holding in the back of my mind the realization that tomorrow I will be concerned about something else. In this way I create the space to detach my focus from the event and move on. Allowing the moment to flow as all moments flow regardless of how we imagine we can grasp onto them.
Also, the student is also likely embarrassed, maybe more so, and will want to keep it to themselves and pretend nothing happened.
PeterParticipantHi Emelie
Wow 5 different countries in a year. That must have been quite the experience and I can imagine how overwhelming it must be while your in it. When in the future you have a chance to look back I suspect you will discover that each experience taught you something valuable and that you have been able to use as you continue to grow.
I’m always fascinated hearing stories how people ended up in the careers they landed on. More often then not the path they planed was not the path they took and they were happier for it. Life changes with every breath we take
I’m not a fan of this search for happiness or plan to be happy someday in the future when everything will be how we imagined.
If we are constantly planing for happiness we will never take time to be happy. And if we are constantly measuring our state of being, Am I happy now, what about now, Oh yes now… crap what happened to it. Why can’t I hold onto it. Maybe I can recreate the past… step in the same river twice…
Better I think to embrace life as it shows up. Its OK to be worried and afraid. Notice it hasn’t stopped you from making changes and moving forward and that is brave. Also notice that you have handled everything that has come your way. Sure somethings you handled better then others either way you handled it and you will handle whatever else comes your way as well.
Most people I know never leave their back yard, never take a chance. You, your out their doing it, your writing your story not having it written for you
Today is your day.
You’re off to Great Places!
You’re off and away!You have brains in your head.
You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself
any direction you choose.
You’re on your own. And you know what you know.
And YOU are the one who’ll decide where to go….Out there things can happen
and frequently do
to people as brainy
and footsy as you.And then things start to happen,
don’t worry. Don’t stew.
Just go right along.
You’ll start happening too….― Dr. Seuss
November 15, 2018 at 1:55 pm in reply to: I'm 25 but I still feel like I'm stuck being my former 14/15 weak self #237025PeterParticipantHi monica
Sorry your having a rough time of it lately. I think is pretty normal to see oneself from a younger perspective. For the longest time I saw myself though the eyes of my 18-year-old self especially when I when home for a visit and I would ask myself the same questions your asking. Perhaps because I was 18 when I left home.
Jung taught that one of the tasks of becoming or individuation was to come to terms with the mother/father complex. This tends to come up at the age you are regardless of the type of parents we have.
Basically, what I think this means is that as we enter adulthood we need to become our own mother and father – connect to the mother/father archetypes – allow that “energy” to resonate within ourselves vice outwardly… However you want to put it the task requires that we learn to nurture, discipline and protect ourselves. One of the steps of this process is to get to a place where you can see your parents as individuals and not only mother and father. Individuals with hopes and dreams of there own as well as other imperfections.
A great book by Cheryl Strayed called the Wild is example of a young woman going through the process after her mother dies to soon. In this case her mother was “to good” and Cherly was dependent on her to nurture her. Without her mother and no father in the picture she was at a loss as to how to nurture and be disciplined. At the end of her hero journey, a walk in the wild, she see her mother as she was and in that way developed a more healthy relationship to the archetype mother and better able to take care of her self
PeterParticipantDon’t get me wrong; I am absolutely terrified. And, in fact, I feel like I am quite far from being able to embrace uncertainty.
Hi Emelie
You made me smile as I very much relate. You might not realize it yet but you are leaping which was why your story reminded me of that book.
It took me 4 years to come up with a plan so that I felt ready to leave the military. Yet when I finally let go of the “trapeze bar’ it was a moment, literately a second. A terrifying moment but once I let go I was all in and focused as I went back to school not knowing how it was going to work out just that I needed to do it.
When I look I sometimes wonder did it really take 4 years or was it just that moment of letting go. I don’t know. I have learned that change happens slowly then all at once. That we don’t tend to notice the small changes we make along the way before we leap. Its weird but it wasn’t the leap that turned out to be scary it was all those small changes I didn’t fully notice that was behind most of my anxiety and fear .
Anyway I hope you keep documenting your process as you go about your transition. Will make for a good story one day.
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November 14, 2018 at 10:48 am in reply to: try to stay positive, but things keep going wrong #236853PeterParticipantThere is an old joke about a guy stranded on top of the roof of his home after a flood. The guy prays to his god to save him as various boats come by to rescue him. The guy refuses saying he is waiting on his god to save him and eventuality he dies. When he faces his judgment he accuses his god as failing him to which the god replied I sent you the boats you just didn’t get in.
I think what happens is that we expect our meaning, purpose, relationships, service to look a certain way and so refuse to get in the “boat” and engage in life as it shows up.
There is a quote from T.S Eliot “We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.”
I suspect that we are always where we need to be in order to get to where were going. We only have to let go of our expectations of how we think life should show up for us to be able to see our path is the one we were already on.
An instructor of a dance class I took made the self evident comment that whatever foot you are on is the right foot because it’s the only place you can start from to move to the next. Yet so many in the dance class would stop whenever we “made a mistake” when in dancing the only mistake is to stop.
PeterParticipantHi Emelie
Reminded me of a book I read: Between Trapezes: Flying into a New Life with the Greatest of Ease – by Gail Blanke
“But what if we could learn to embrace uncertainty and propel ourselves forward with a sense of curiosity and adventure, rather than fear and trepidation?” – Gail Blanke
Sometimes, I feel that my life is a series of trapeze swings. I’m either hanging on to a trapeze bar swinging along or, for a few moments, I’m hurdling across space between the trapeze bars.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the transition zone is the only real thing, and the bars are the illusions we dream up to not notice the void. Yes, with all the fear that can accompany transitions, they are still the most vibrant, growth-filled, passionate moments in our lives. And so transformation of fear may have nothing to do with making fear go away, but rather with giving ourselves permission to “hang out” in the transition zone — between the trapeze bars — allowing ourselves to dwell in the only place where change really happens.
It can be terrifying. It can also be enlightening. Hurdling through the void, we just may learn to fly. Judy Banks
Looking forward to hearing what happens Next
November 13, 2018 at 10:48 am in reply to: try to stay positive, but things keep going wrong #236725PeterParticipantI am just trying to find some inner peace, by understanding why each day almost is a lesson in suffering.
The first noble truths in Buddhism is the truth of suffering. The reality is that Life is momentum – Life requiring the sacrifice of Life. Life eats Life, that is its wonder and horror. Awesome in the true meaning of the word.
You are correct then in your realization that each day is a lesson in suffering. The next question is what are you learning? What will your answer to Life be?
There are three ways that the wisdom traditions relate to The Truth that life eats life.
- Affirmation and gratitude for life as it is, the good and the bad
- Denial – No… Life is something that should not be. Stop the cycle and let me off
- We can fix it… Life is a war between Good and Evil and we can fix it.
How you answer that reality for yourself will affect the way in which you relate to suffering. Will you fight life, or will you enter into the flow of Life? How much of the intensity of our suffering is created by our resistance to life?
Surely as it gets too much, a cosmic break would enable me to be of more service to others?
How are you measuring service? Everything you are and do is in service to Life (as it is) even as you suffer, create suffering and heal suffering.
There is some suffering that we create for ourselves. Usually it involves control and the poor judgment of good and bad.
Jung argued that one of the tasks of becoming required the individual to come to terms with the problem of opposites. As many of the wisdom traditions suggest when you take a close look at what appear to be opposites they disappear. The good and the not something to be separated but something that exist in each other. They are not two sides of a coin but the coin itself, the opposites, the good and the bad intimately entangled… disappear. The coin is a coin. Life is Life, as it must be and it is Yes.
Once you let go of the need to control and define life and find a way to engage in the flow you will be a service to others. It might not look like what you imagine, and you may not be recognized for it, but it will be enough… as you let all that go as well.
PeterParticipantstay calm and things will happen as they need to happen. I just need to be patient and wait?
More like be patient and engage in life as it shows up. This is not a passive waiting, but active being.
As you engage with life pay attention to what you allow your attention to attach to. Notice, learn and allow the moment to flow by detaching your attention. Participation in the flow entails noticing whey you are attaching your attention on a memory, frustration, fear or some such. When you notice feel it and check into what is real. (Fear is more often then not False Evidence Appearing Real). Once you identify what is “real” you will be in a better position to allow your attention/focus to move on to the next moment. Eventually you will discover what you’ve been looking for.
(We think we can keep a moment from flowing by attaching and holding onto it but that is a lie. The moment flows regardless of what we do to try to control it so might has well respect that reality and participate vice attempt to stop the flow. More often then not its our resistance that creates the worry not the actually event.)
PeterParticipantMy advice for what its worth is to take a step back from your your concept of positivity and measure of what success must look like while continuing to be greatfull for the good and bad that come your way that allow you to continue to grow and learn. Engage in life as it shows up doing your best, helping others when you can and you will find what you didn’t even know you were really looking for.
PeterParticipantif I go through life always trying to do the right thing, why do I keep getting all this stuff back?
I’ve always struggled with the idea behind the theology of reward and punishment which as you ask is a belief that if I do all the ‘right things’ obey all the rules I will be rewarded. Such notions do not exist in nature where the rain falls on the “good” and the “bad”.
Then there is the idea of “the Secret” where like attracts like, so if I’m positive, positive things will happen to me. The rub being that I must to my very core be “positive” which requires that I do the work to “”Know my Self” which requires embracing the negative and the positive within our selves. Misunderstood we end up putting on the face of positively pretending all is well when we are hurting.
Or Karma mistakenly associated with Justice. Good things must happen to good people bad things to bad people as that only fair. If I desire that “karma” will punish those that have harmed me… what karma am I putting into play?
I think it should be enough to do what is right because you feel it is right and that that is who you are. There are no mistakes other then those we don’t learn from. Learn better, do better what more can you ask of yourself?
Positivity is great however if your suppressing your feelings in order to do so that is not positivity.
One day the farmer’s horse ran away. His neighbor hears of his bad news and comes over to commiserate.
“I hear that you lost your horse. That is bad news and bad luck.” “Well, who knows?” said the farmer, “Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t.”Well, the next day the farmer’s horse returns to his stable, but it has brought along a drove of wild horses
it has befriended and who make themselves at home. The neighbor across the way can’t believe what he hears about his friend. He decides to come over and congratulate him. “This is such goodness,” he says. “Well, who knows,” said the farmer, “Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t.”The next day the farmer’s son decided to ride one of the new wild horses, to break it in. As luck would have it, the son was thrown from the horse and broke his leg. Of course, upon hearing this sad news, their neighbor came over to offer condolences. “This is such sad thing,” he said. “Your son has broken his leg. This is bad news.” “Well, who knows,” said the farmer. “Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t.”
On the following day soldiers came by commandeering and army. They took sons from most of the surrounding farms, but because the farmer’s son had a broken leg, he could not go and was spared. And well, maybe it was good news and maybe it wasn’t. Who knows what is good and what is not.
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PeterParticipantI’m tired of passively sitting by waiting for something to happen. I want to go out there and *make* it happen
Hi Alia
I definitely relate. Loosing a job can really do a number on our sense of self. I’ve heard that most people can expect to have three or more such transitions in a life time. I’m on my fourth as it concerns work only one of which I initiated.
Reading your post the above line caught my eye. There is a art to “passively wait” that is very active. In the practice of zazen one sits, seemingly doing nothing, while observing ones flow of thoughts. The intention is not to have no thoughts but avoiding attaching to the thoughts and in this why allow them to flow.
When we point our consciousness at a thought, memory, fear… and attach to it we crate a continuous line of associated thoughts, memories, fear usually leading down the rabbit hole, anxiety, depression… As we learn not to attach our consciousness/focus to our thoughts and allow them to flow our mind “quiets” allowing us to see more clearly. This Zen, doing by not doing, requires eyes wide open and engaging in life as it shows up.
Intuitively you know what you need to do. To get out there and “make” something happen. In other words engage in life as it shows up while at the same time “sitting” without attaching focus to your thoughts, fears…. in this way you will be better able to respond spontaneously to what shows up and in this way your path will become clear.
PeterParticipantPaul
help me find a meaning and purpose to my life
Which come first the chicken or the egg, the fever or the cold, the depression or search for meaning?
It kind of ironic however its possible that it is the search for meaning and purpose is feeding into your depression instead of engaging you to life
The issue with meaning and purpose is that people think they know what they want when they use those words. The problem is that the search itself can be the very thing keeping us from experiencing the very thing we are searching for.
Meaning and Purpose do not exist in the natural world. Not in the way that we tend to think about those words. A flowers purpose and meaning be a flower. Growing is not the meaning or purpose, being is, the flower itself, as it is, is purpose and meaning. In becoming the flower gives meaning to Life, Life does not give meaning to the flower. And that is a big difference of perspective.
You, as you are, all your struggles and accomplishments give Life meaning and purpose. You are meaning and purpose. All that you do and are is done with purpose and meaning even taking out the garbage.
Reading your post, I don’t think the search of meaning and purpose is troubling you as much as being lonely and in a kind of rut. The experience of meaning and purpose are often tied to the experience of being in relation to others. When we are witnessed by others it is more likely (easier) that we can accept ourselves as meaning and purpose.
My Advice for what its worth, is to let go of your “search” for meaning and instead engage in Life as it presents it self to you. Opportunities to engage with others will present themselves to you. Say Yes
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