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TeeParticipantDear Sofioula,
happy belated birthday! I am glad you’re feeling good, although very busy – but with the things you love and enjoy!
It may not make sense to you but this is how my brain works, 2 sided. It is completely split. I often have agruements with my own mind. OCD again, plays a huge role in this I think. The only senario that plays in my head, is that I am a loser and he was right.
It’s the inner critic telling you youโre wrong and blaming you. Itโs the internalized parental voice. Youโd need to develop the voice of the good parent, which is a loving, compassionate voice. It would counter the inner critic and enable you to forgive yourself for making mistakes or for changing your mind.
I saw that when I met my then bf, I didnโt want to marry or have kids until a certain age, I knew I always wanted to do those things, but it wasnโt something I stressed or even thought about. My obsession and fear with having a family ASAP, started with my first visit to the OB/GYN.
Alright, so your need to get married and have children young didnโt just stem from your parents โbrainwashingโ you and expecting it from you, but because you genuinely got afraid that your health would deteriorate and you wouldnโt be able to have children later, because you were wrongly diagnosed with a health condition you never had. In addition to that, you lost your beloved cousin a few years earlier, who was born with brain damage and severe health problems โ also due to an ob/gyn mistake.
So your desire to get married ASAP (which you wanted from your previous boyfriend) stemmed both from your parentsโ expectation, but also from your own fear that they may be right that youโll really stay alone and die alone, due to a medical condition which doesnโt allow you to bear children. The diagnosis was like an alarm firing up in your head, because there was now a real danger that your parentsโ โpropheciesโ would turn out true, so you better hurry up because what if theyโre right.
Though I do not cry anymore and have been back to normal โ somewhat โ I still carry a picture of me as a baby in my wallet and fear that I will never be able to have my kids photos in there.ย
After the diagnosis, you feared that you wonโt be able to have children ever. It was an unbearable thought for you, not only because you wanted to be a mother and experience the joy of motherhood, but also because it carried a horrible sentence for you: of staying alone forever and dying alone. The two great fears got activated in you. Thatโs the alarm โ the double alarm โ that turned on in your head.
And it appears itโs still hard for you to switch it off completely. Thereโs still a fear that your โgrim destinyโ might be possible, although not probable. The fear is present, but it has lessened.
Well, now youโd need to silence that ominous voice in your head by telling yourself that youโre healthy, you have no medical condition, and you have enough time to meet the right guy. Not just the first willing guy, but someone with whom youโre really compatible. For silencing the ominous voice, what you need again is the voice of the loving, compassionate parent โ to assure you that youโll be fine and thereโs no need to worry about it.
Now it occurs to me that your father was actually not just the critical voice, but also the ominous voice, always worrying for the slightest thing, always having plan B if things go wrong, and believing that things might go wrong easily. You internalized both of those voices, and your misdiagnosis only strengthened themโฆ so truly, you need a counter-voice, which is the voice of faith and trust that things will be fine, that youโre safe, that universe has your back.
Both my father โ and I suspect your mother too โ were too young to be able to check and control their emotions, or even find ways to let them out in a non catastrophic way
My mother wasnโt too young when she had me, she was 33, but she was the worrying, catastrophizing kind of person, like your father. So the ominous voice is very familiar to me, and I too internalized itโฆ
But the question is how do we approach the inner child as adults and how do we start fixing our compass? In my experience, being myself is the same as being silly, that no one will take my seriously and that being spontaneous is not adult-like.
Itโs the inner critic telling you that youโre silly. Itโs what youโve been hearing from your parents since you were a child: that you donโt know whatโs good for you, that you make stupid decisions. If youโd only do what they tell you, youโd be much better off. And you believe it. Now it’s the time to stop believing it. To do that, bring in the inner compassionate parent, whoโll tell you youโre smart and capable of knowing whatโs good for you.
As for being spontaneous, thatโs one of the healthy qualities of the inner child that many adults sadly lose, specially if theyโre fear-based, like your father and my mother is. If you fear life, you need to have everything pre-planned and under control (and you need to even have a plan B!), because you never know what might happen. And what can happen is only bad, in their mind. So they need to ensure that the least possible damage happensโฆ but that also means the least possible joy can happen too, because they canโt enjoy life while waiting for a catastrophe to happen…
Let me know if you have found ways to address this in your own experience, if you would like to share how (if) you fixed your relationship with your mother, or rather how you respond to your mother behaviors as an adult . Without losing your soul.
Well, I stopped trying to please her, fulfill her expectations and live my life the way sheโd want me to. Because of that, sheโs very sad and offended at me. We barely speak. And we live in two different countries, so we rarely meet as well. In her eyes, I am a great disappointment and a failure. But I’m not upset about what she thinks of me, I can live with it. She cannot really make me feel bad about myself, like she used to before.
Thank you so much for all the kind and supportive words. I work better in life with words of affirmation and support.
You’re very welcome. And as I said, try to develop that positive inner parental voice, which will give your inner child words of affirmation and support, to counter your judgmental and catastrophizing inner critic!
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April 21, 2021 at 3:42 am in reply to: Is it normal to feel on and off about your significant other? #378211
TeeParticipantDear Ashmitha,
I’ve taken a look at your previous thread, from September last year. One thing that caught my attention is that between meetings, you only text with each other, since he doesn’t like talking on the phone. He video calls his cousins and friends sometimes, but he doesn’t video call you, right?
This to me could be problematic, because talking on the phone (if we can’t be physically together) is how bonding happens. If you like someone and want to spend time with them, you’d naturally want to spend a lot of time on the phone too, just talking about your day or telling each other sweet nothings. If he has a problem with that, it might be something to look into more deeply.
April 21, 2021 at 2:46 am in reply to: A date with a coworker felt like a bright spot in 2020 (and maybe it was)? #378209
TeeParticipantDear Ryan,
I’ve taken a look at your earlier threads. You had a great discussion with Anita there, who very astutely pointed at the dynamics you had with women and its possible causes. I now realize that you did say No to a woman before (to your ex with a small son), however it wasn’t a strong, resolute no, but rather an ambivalent no.
You didn’t really want a relationship with her, you didn’t want to live with her and share life with her – so that was your No. But you did want her in your life from time to time, going to trips and spending time with her and her son. That was your Yes. You wanted her to be emotionally close to you, to confide in you, to talk about her problems. You were receptive to that and seeking it even after you broke up, which she told you she isn’t willing to do.
What you weren’t receptive to was her anger towards her father. Her anger repelled you and you said it was one of the reasons you broke up with her. Anita noticed that you might be suppressing your own anger (towards your mother) and that’s why you cannot deal with hers. Your mother scolded you when during arguments you would use the word “freaking”. It seems to me that this is how she silenced you and deterred the attention from the actual problem to something inconsequential like proper speaking. You weren’t allowed to get angry with her, or to express that anger. Would you say that’s true?
When we suppress our anger, we cannot set proper boundaries either, and we cannot say a definite and resolute No. We also don’t know what we want, or we don’t dare to go after what we want. So we cannot say a definite and resolute Yes either. This may even cause depression because we can’t selectively suppress just anger, but we need to suppress ALL emotions, including joy and happiness.
Do you recognize yourself in any of this?
April 21, 2021 at 1:08 am in reply to: Feeling of abandonment when boyfriend is traveling for work #378206
TeeParticipantDear Namaste,
I donโt think itโs selfish to have needs and wants.
No, it’s not selfish at all, we all have legitimate needs and don’t need to sacrifice them and suffer in the long-run. This being sad, it appears you might have sacrificed your emotional needs during your 36-yr marriage, in which you were emotionally abandoned and psychologically abused. You sacrificed your needs in that marriage – out of loyalty and unselfishness.
He was sick (mentally) and you took care of him because you loved him. It’s almost like having a sick child and dedicating your life to them, only your husband wasn’t your child. Still, you dedicated your life to him, but eventually you couldn’t take it any more, when “his behavior became more erratic toward the end of our marriage”. You left when it became unsafe – meaning only when it was dangerous for your physical well-being. But you stayed all those years, even though your emotional well-being was at stake.
Now, it seems to me, you don’t want to sacrifice your needs any longer. You don’t want to repeat the experience from your marriage. You want all that you’ve missed for so long to now be compensated by your partner.
You say “I am not over demanding or needy.” It seems to me you were not demanding or needy in your marriage, but you are now. The old wounds got opened…ย and I believe your original childhood wound is having been abandoned, however you suppressed it and compensated it for a long time by being a care-taker to someone who would never abandon you… But that fell apart, and your original wound got opened… Do you resonate with any of this?
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April 20, 2021 at 12:52 pm in reply to: A date with a coworker felt like a bright spot in 2020 (and maybe it was)? #378181
TeeParticipantDear Ryan,
I am sorry you haven’t been feeling great lately and have felt empty and as you say, self-destructive.
You said you agreed to have sex with a woman you didn’t really like: when you met in person, you felt “even less of a connection” than online. You felt you didn’t have much in common with her, and you were not physically attracted to her either. There was just “nothing there for you”. And yet, she was persistent, so you just went along, went to her house, and did what she expected you to do – have sex with her. You met once again a few days later, after her insisting, and you tried to “rise to the occasion” again, but it didn’t work. You left home without meeting her expectations.
It appears to me you can’t say no to a woman, and feel obliged to meet her expectations/needs, even if they go against what you really want and desire. Is this dynamic familiar to you, perhaps from your childhood, in the relationship with your mother?
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April 20, 2021 at 10:07 am in reply to: Feeling of abandonment when boyfriend is traveling for work #378160
TeeParticipantDear Jane,
I was in a similar situation at the beginning of my relationship with my now husband. He had a sick brother he had to take care of, and I felt exactly like you: I was hurt because I wasn’t his priority. He was very attached to his brother and suffering because of his deteriorating condition. Almost all his time and energy was focused on his brother. I decided to break up because I felt uncared for and neglected.
Well, some time later his brother passed away, and only then did I start realizing how selfish I was in this entire story. It actually caused a spiritual and personal crisis in me (because I wanted to get back with him and he was very reluctant because he felt betrayed). It was the trigger to start me on the path of personal development.
One of the first things I’ve learned is that the reason for my needy behavior was that I felt unloved, and needed someone to love and care for me, like a mother would care for a child. I needed to be No1 in his world, and I needed his life to revolve around me. When this wasn’t possible, I felt abandoned and unloved.
Another problem was my anxious attachment style, where I felt I couldn’t live without him. I wasn’t able to cope either existentially or emotionally without him. I was like a needy child, and he was like a good mother that I never had. It took me quite some time to heal those wounds and be able to take care of myself emotionally so that I don’t depend on him so much.
You say you’ve stayed in a marriage for 36 years with a mentally ill man who refused to seek help. That probably shows your fear of being alone, since it was easier (or safer?) for you to stay in an unhappy marriage than to separate. He must have met your needs in some way though, since you haven’t left to look for someone else?
My advice is to work on healing the abandonment issues, and the lack of self-love, because that’s the only way to experience a fulfilling relationship…
April 20, 2021 at 2:32 am in reply to: Confused whether I was actually lead on by my closest guy friend #378135
TeeParticipantDear Ishita,
we can start a new topic if you’d like, but I’d like to address the situation with X:
yes , i kind of dont want to admit that, also , its just gonna end up being a gossip , if we go around talking to common friends about it, I wouldnt want that,I dont want them to resolve it for us or even attempt to it as well.
I totally understand that you don’t want to admit this to your pals and become a subject of gossip. What I believe would help you is to admit it to yourself, and to stop blaming yourself for falling in love with someone who behaved lovingly towards you (at least in the beginning). It’s not your fault. It’s completely normal. You have the right to fall in love with anyone you want, and specially with someone you thought so highly of and who treated you well at first. So try to have compassion for yourself.
You said you want him to “understand you and let you go and allow you to heal”. But actually, his understanding is not what you need right now. What you really need is to understand yourself – have compassion for yourself – and let yourself off the hook. Forgive yourself for whatever you feel you did wrong in this relationship. Forgive yourself for falling in love, for hoping, for having expectations from him, for allowing sexting, for accusing him for not calling you, for being vulnerable with him.
Your blaming yourself now is almost certainly related to that experience before entering college, when you were under stress, you were blamed by your batch mates, and even by your teachers. Instead of trying to understand why you have problems and helping you, your teachers blamed you. Since we tend to trust authorities (teachers, trainers and coaches) almost as much as our parents – you started believing them and accepted that something’s wrong with you, that you’re not good enough. And the pressure of entering amongst fierce competition just added to your insecurity and anxiety.
I wish I could go back and tell the 17 year old self ,how it was ok to let go, because there are bigger things waiting, and I will get it anyways( because now, when I am in college , I see an entirely different picture , to what I used to imagine then, and its so much better)
Actually, you canย go back, in a meditation, and tell exactly that to your 17-yr old self. This is what she needs to hear – and it is you who can release her.
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April 19, 2021 at 3:17 pm in reply to: Confused whether I was actually lead on by my closest guy friend #378110
TeeParticipantDear Ishita,
I am unable to accpt the fact he thinks it was all my fault and he had nothing to do with it
Why should I be the one taking responsibility of the entire thing as if I was some stupid to fall for it all,
It appears you’re unable to accept that he is blaming you and portraying you like a guilty party to your other friends.
You don’t want to be portrayed as guilty in other people’s eyes, but at the same time you don’t want to tell anyone your side of the story (the close friend who’s tried to mediate between the two of you “doesnt know the reason, because I havent told him”). You don’t want to admit that you fell in love with him because he treated you as if he was in love with you too. Could we say that?
TeeParticipantDear tranquility_17,
We have discussed this and he is not interested in being the sole provider.
How about maternity leave? Do you think he’d be willing to provide for you and the children while you’re on maternity leave and beyond, if you decide to take a few years off of work because you feel like dedicating your time completely to children while they’re little? Do you feel he’d support you in that, or he’d expect you to return to work ASAP?
April 19, 2021 at 2:12 pm in reply to: Confused whether I was actually lead on by my closest guy friend #378095
TeeParticipantDear Ishita,
I’m sorry about your negative experiences in the past that make you feel insecure about yourself, and sometimes anxious and procrastinating in your studies (if I understood well). If you’d like share more about it, you’re very welcome, perhaps we here can help you figure some things out, so that the issue is less of a burden for you.
Regarding X and your inability to let go of this situation, I’d like to ask: How would you like the situation to be resolved? Imagine this: a miracle happens over night, and when you wake up tomorrow morning, your situation is magically solved. How do you know it is solved? How do you feel? How do you act differently? How do other people act differently?
TeeParticipantDear tranquility_17,
your partner seems happy with his relaxed approach to life, and he seems to be doing it smartly because he earns enough money to live comfortably and without much stress. He’s not just sitting on his ass the whole day, because: “He gets up in the morning, surfs, trades stocks, cooks meals, helps around the house, etc“. So he cooks, does the housework and brings in the money… ideal combination ๐
But I see your issue – you’re concerned that he doesn’t have a good work ethic and might not set a good example for your future children. Your work ethic is different than his: you work hard for your salary (I have a pretty demanding job), and you’re also continuously working on yourself, both as a person and professionally (I am taking an online course, I am very active in a few workout clubs, I am learning new things, growing in my career).
You’re all about becoming better and growing, while he seems to be content with himself (I get annoyed by his laid back contentment). Well, what if he’s actually pretty developed already, since he’s smart and capable enough to earn money without working his socks off, and also pretty advanced spiritually to be able to enjoy the here and now, and to also trust that the universe has his back because he can always earn money when he needs it? What if he’s already living his personal nirvana and enjoying every minute of it?
What comes to mind is the well-known story of the fisherman and the businessman (when the businessman tries to persuade the fisherman to create a fishing business, buy a ship fleet, etc… so that he could get rich and eventually retire and fish and relax all day long, like he’s doing now). What if your partner is the fisherman, and doesn’t want to become a stressed, overworked, burned out businessman, but to enjoy life and also provide for his family?
April 19, 2021 at 11:47 am in reply to: What’s your view on the idea “As you think, so you shall be” #378075
TeeParticipantDear Danny,
welcome! You’ve already received great responses by BDC and Anita. In response to “You’re not your thoughts”, I’d like to say: you’re also your breath, for example. If you focus on your breathing, and feel your belly rise and fall with your breath, you’re shifting your focus from your thoughts (it’s called the monkey mind that keeps you stuck in worry, fear, is obsessing, cannot let go, cannot relax…) to something beyond those thoughts, as BDC said. By focusing on your breath, you’re focusing on the here and now, and can perhaps hear another voice – the still small voice of your intuition. Your inner voice.
At the same time, “as you think so shall you be” is also true, because as Anita said, if you believe your thoughts (e.g. that you’re not good enough and a loser), your life will reflect those false beliefs. If you believe you’re good enough and capable and you believe in yourself, it’s much more likely that your life will be fulfilling and satisfying. That’s why the second postulate is also true.
TeeParticipantDear Ilyana,
I am sorry it’s tough for you again, but what you’re experiencing is completely normal. As Anita said previously, progress is not linear, we experience ups and downs, and sometimes it feels it’s just so hard and we’re never going to get better. But just the fact that you’ve started walking the path, that you’re aware of yourself, and that you’re attending therapy, is already a huge step.
There were days in the recent times when you felt better, e.g. when you experienced improved cognition, or when you met a woman in the FB group who like you experienced traumatic birth. You were also happy when you connected to your son, and he shared his problems with you:
My son seems depressed to me. He keeps saying that life sucks and that more bad things happen than good things. I am worried about him. But he is talking to me about it, and last night he said I helped him, which made us both feel good.
Your son told you you helped him, which means you’re not a terrible mother. You’re doing what you can, but the childhood wounding is still there, so you aren’t always at the top of your game. But you’re trying. Give yourself some credit for that. There will be better days again…
And also, it’s hard to suddenly let go of the old coping mechanisms. Those “trails” and neural paths are already engraved in our brain, they’re a part of our automatic responses, and it’s so easy to just slip into them when we feel a slightly bigger obstacle, when things don’t go smoothly. Perhaps it’d help to know that there’s another trail, yet uncharted, but it’s there as a possibility for you. You just need to keep putting one foot before the other, sometimes doing one step forward and two steps back, but eventually you’ll get there, you’ll switch to that other trail, you’ll have enough of the positive experience to not slip back into the old coping mechanisms and depression. There will be enough blue skies that you’ll know that the storm is just temporary and will go away…
Well, this may be too much metaphor ๐ย But I hope you can see that you should just give yourself time (and patience and compassion), and things will slowly start changing…
April 19, 2021 at 8:14 am in reply to: Confused whether I was actually lead on by my closest guy friend #378048
TeeParticipantDear Ishita,
but nonetheless , ya I dont know , what should I think now., this is kind of difficult to let go , of re-analyzing everything again and again.
I hear you… but it’s also useful to look at things in detail, to really be sure what happened and to draw some conclusions… So, I believe that since he knew how you feel about him, and he still told you he doesn’t share the same sentiments and that it didn’t even cross his mind (“I never thought of us in this way”), there is no doubt that he’s not interested in a relationship with you.
Ya I kind of couldnt believe it ,then, because I honestly , genuinely felt he had something, and I wouldnt just imagine that, I am not someone who does that, I think I would have backed off in the very beginning if he would have even slightly given me a hint.
I know it’s painful because it felt like he’s into you, but obviously he is a good actor and could charm you away, even though you were careful not to put your guard down too quickly. Also keep in mind that you liked him from starters, he was someone you admired, so when such a guy showed interest in you, you of course wanted to believe he really feels something for you. His flattery felt good – you felt flattered that this guy is interested in you. So perhaps there’s an insecurity in you, which made you vulnerable to him?
Actually you mentioned in your earlier posts that the two of you are quite different:
I am someone pretty confident about myself, but I was so into not wanting to lose him, that I eventually began to feel obligated somewhere or the other, because I knew we were very different people , and I really thought that maybe I had begun to become too much for him now, which was so wrong to feel for oneself.
.. this entire incident has also got to make some revelation about me, on why did allow myself to feel obligated to someone, are such people even worth it in the long run in your life, if you cant be yourself around them.
The fact that you couldn’t be yourself around him would prove that you felt insecure, “lesser than” him. How do you feel you two are different? What does he have, which you feel you don’t have?
April 19, 2021 at 7:05 am in reply to: Confused whether I was actually lead on by my closest guy friend #378043
TeeParticipantDear Ishita,
I keep replaying all the previous events in my head, trying to figure out if it was really me the reason for all this to happen, was he just being a good friend, because he cannot relate to a thing where I felt he was overdoing as a friend
You’re doubting yourself that maybe your perception is wrong – exactly as he would want you to…
And I didnt make it clear in the call but I want to now, that forward on , he should not think that its me because of whom this interaction has been on hold. And talk to me for a resolve only when he is ready to stop being clueless and support me through this by taking responsibility for his miscommunication
So you want him to acknowledge that it was his fault that things turned out like this – you want him to accept his responsibility. But he’s already refused to do that, he refused to accept that he’s done anything wrong (except in one occasion, when expected you to come to meet), and he’s saying you also haven’t done anything to wrong him. So he in his eyes is blameless like a baby, and not just that, but he’s good tempered and “gracious” because he isn’t blaming you for anything. In his eyes, he’s a good friend, and I don’t think there’s anything you can say that will change his opinion…
I keep replaying all thr scenes trying to know where did it all go wrong
Well, it went wrong when you wanted clarification about his intentions, and he said he doesn’t want a relationship, at least not now. But when you first wrote here, you actually didn’t believe he had no feelings for you. You said:
I AM PRETTY MUCH HEART BROKEN. BUT SOMEWHERE I FEEL HE DID HAVE FEELINGS FOR ME JUST THAT HE IS NOT CONFESSING IT .
You were hoping he has feelings for you, but doesn’t want to confess. I have to ask, just to make sure, did you confess it to him at that point? Does he know you have feelings for him? If he does, and he rejected the relationship, then there’s no doubt that he really means it. If he doesn’t exactly know what you feel about him, then it’s a different story, because he might be lying he doesn’t have feelings when in fact he does…
So anyway,ย I just want to make sure that he knew about your feelings, before we make further conclusions…
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