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  • in reply to: Need some advice, as im so frustrated #382677
    Tee
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    Dear Felix,

    she’s not being fair with you because she can’t promise you anything about the future, she’s telling you to wait for 2 years to even start dating, she’s throwing you a bait about some possible (and as you say, highly uncertain) relationship many years from now. It’s one big nothing.

    She probably just needs attention, and so far you’ve been her greatest fan, and now as she’s losing it, she wants it back. She doesn’t want you, but your attention and you pining for her. That probably makes her feel better about herself and boosts her self-esteem. It’s her ego, not a real interest in you.

    If I were you, I wouldn’t agree on it by any means. It’s just going to end up in disappointment and you being anxious about her for the next 4-5 years.

    One of my friend whom i told this situation, she said i should try harder for this girl. She said that god keeps leading me a way to keep contacting with her, and show me a way that i should try harder….

    No, it’s not God who is leading you – it’s her who contacted you after she realized she’s losing your attention. As I said, it’s her hurt ego at work, nothing more.

    Like i’m on my journey on accepting my height, but due to this circumstances, the insecurities came back……

    It’s understandable that your insecurities came back, because a part of you wants to impress her, because she’s making you believe she is interested in you. But as I said, my impression is that she’s not interested in you but in your attention. So the best would be to free yourself from her – to wish her well and go your separate ways. If you’re meant to be together in 4-5 years, it will happen. But right now, it would be a bad choice to stay attached to her.

     

    in reply to: bad timing or patterns? #382676
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    Dear Peace,

    I am really glad to hear that you’re doing so well, both with your exams and in terms of relationship. As I understood, you broke up with your ex back in April, and have started seeing this other guy in May. Your relationship seems very healthy  – he respects you, doesn’t rush you, helps you when you needed it. You also say you don’t need to walk on eggshells around him, meaning you can be yourself around him, which is super important. And you feel peace and calm, as the relationship slowly unfolds… All in all, it does look promising and healthy, and I hope it stays that way and perhaps even evolves into marriage.

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    Dear miyoid,

    I don’t know what to do, I feel so much pain when I think about how could he do those things. Maybe I cannot face reality, there is a part of me who cannot get away, cannot move on, and doesn’t want to move on. I both want to get free from this jail I’ve built.

    Yes, it seems there’s a part of you that wants to stay in a kind of relationship with the guy your rational self knows cannot give you the love you need. But this other part – your inner child – still hopes that he would. He reminds you of your mother: her love was one moment there, and the next it would disappear. You’re repeating the same childhood dynamic with him. The little girl inside of you is still hoping that “mom” would finally commit to her and never abandon her again. It’s the child’s wishful thinking. You’d need to heal that child in order to move on and be free from your prison…

     

    in reply to: Regretting a missed career opportunity abroad #382464
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    Dear Dandan,

    It’s like half of the time we both are super excited and happy and other times I get depressed mostly post afternoon and evening.

    My depression though it sometimes doesn’t have any main reason, is sometimes because of my unaccomplishment.

    I believe your depression is rooted in your childhood, living with a depressed mother, whom you could never make happy. That’s the reason you felt and still feel bad about yourself, and why you need alcohol and other stimulants to soothe your pain, to forget about the pain. That’s also the reason why you feel unworthy and incapable, and haven’t accomplished the things you wanted to accomplish.

    You’re now experiencing the results of your low self-esteem (insecurity, depression, addiction), but the reason for your low self-esteem is in your childhood. If you want to start healing, you’d need to focus on healing your inner child.

    I was similar to you, had an eating disorder and super low self-esteem, low accomplishment, and lots of insecurities. I didn’t need to get on medications but I started attending therapy. And a really big breakthrough came with healing the inner child – addressing those unmet emotional needs that I had as a child. I am quite confident it would help you too.

    But if I still can’t get over her, and can’t be with her either, not able to think about marrying other girl either, am I doomed ? I am so scared. I feel like which ever path I take I am doomed and going to be miserable.

    It appears you did have a strong bond, but mostly because of your internal state (depression, confusion, insecurity), you were unable to maintain and sustain that bond. You were sometimes depressed “for no reason”. I know the feeling: even when everything seems fine on the outside and you should have all the reasons to be happy, you cannot – there is something inside you that won’t let you. That’s the inner child who won’t let you be happy, until you heal him.

    In your present state, I don’t think you could be happy with any other girl, and it may be that she is “the one” for you. But you’d need to heal yourself enough to be able to sustain the relationship and not reject her love.

     

    in reply to: wouldn’t be a mercy if i just ended my life? #382463
    Tee
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    Hi Murtaza,

    So its not about what i have, nor where do i live, no im miserable because of few words i tell myself.

    You yourself said multiple times that it’s not about the country you live. I do believe the culture you grew up in contributed a lot to your situation, but you said your problem cannot be solved by changing where you live. Although I imagine that if you moved to a different culture, it would be different, easier…

    And it’s not just about the words you tell yourself, it’s about the love you give yourself. But sometimes it’s hard to give love to ourselves because we’re so deprived and lacking. I was like that too. What helped me is to ask for God’s love. God (who in my view isn’t limited to a religion or a scripture) was the first “person” I felt loved me. I begged him to come to my heart and he did. This changed my whole world. It enabled me to love myself and my inner child. It gave me that initial “charge” of love that ignited my ability to love myself.

     

    in reply to: wouldn’t be a mercy if i just ended my life? #382412
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    Hi Murtaza,

    you talk about loving your inner child your own way:

    I already did that, but the hole is still here, and i don’t believe that there is only one way to love yourself, i do it my way, the way i see it fit, not whatever you say, not whatever anyone say

    And i would suppose that there is only one way to be a parent to this child, and its a man made way, i don’t care how many people got healed by this way, i already did best for myselfI

    you gonna teach me how to love myself? I can’t continue this conversation if you didn’t drop the idea that i don’t love myself, it just makes me mad how you blame me while you don’t even know me, i can’t do this again,

    What you did is protect yourself from pain, the way you thought was best. Prior to that, you suffered tremendously (“You don’t know how i lived needing love everyday excessively, so excessively that i wanted to remove this need from the origin“), having a deep longing which no one could meet, and you decided to suppress that longing because that was the only tool you had at your disposal. Your 18-year old self did his best to protect himself from pain – you decided love is an impossibility for you, never accessible, never attainable. With this, you may have suppressed the little boy Murtaza, but you helped the 18-year old to make sense of things, to maintain his sanity. You did well, considering the circumstances.

    You’re angry at me for not acknowledging your love for your inner child. I want to acknowledge the role your Protector played in protecting the 18-year old (and the 20-year old) Murtaza from excessive pain. And you’ve managed, to a point. But this very thread shows that you’re miserable. And that’s because you have suppressed that little boy. I am not blaming you, I am just saying what has happened.

    In a recent post, you were interested in the true self. The true self is the observer, which observes all of your parts: (1) the little boy Murtaza with his longings and unmet needs, (2) the Protector who came up with the philosophy of why love is unattainable for you, and (3) the 20-year old Murtaza who is apathetic most of the times because he trusts the Protector’s view of the world. The true self would be beyond all those parts, looking at them without judgment, but with compassion and understanding.

    its sad though, that every person i talk to either kill me with his wrong advises and suggestions, or just go away,

    If you could, at least for a moment, step away from the idea that love is unattainable for you, and that you need to be at the mercy of other people to get love – and give me the benefit of the doubt – this conversation may make sense.

     

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    Dear Luna,

    you’re welcome. You say you like his moral qualities, you trust he wouldn’t cheat on you, he’s a gentleman, extremely polite and respectful of others (professors, elders, and his family and friends), more mature than other guys, responsible and generous.

    But he’s not respectful of you when he tells you that he is bored with your conversations (“He thinks our words and chats are boring”), or he repeatedly falls asleep when you agree to have a video call, or he tells you he gets bored with a relationship after a while. That alone is a romance killer, and a red flag that something is wrong, even if he tells you he loves you. Do you want to live with a guy who is bored by you?

    On top of that come pretty severe differences in worldview: “Our opinions about life and everything are different and we cant discuss society or politics or life issues with each other because we would get upset or disappointed about the way we think.” How wise is it to share life with someone whose way of looking at life is fundamentally different than yours?

    You say you tried to break up with him before but he didn’t take it well:

    In the end he insisted that the problems started ever since we moved away and everything would be fine if we tried…. He said that his life would be very sad and unbearable without me.

    If he is bored with you while in a long-distance relationship, what would happen if you were there, by his side, day in and day out? Wouldn’t he be even more bored?

    What’s coming to me is that he might need you to provide him with some sort of security, perhaps a sense of familiarity, without which he might start feeling anxious. If he had a father with mental problems, whom he tried to save, it’s a similar dynamic like he has/had with you. You might give him the same sense of familiarity, which to him feels comforting. But at the same time, he also resents it – he resents being your savior, like he probably resented being his father’s savior. This resentment manifests in him losing interest in the relationship, falling asleep, and doing other passive aggressive things. Do you think this might be the case?

    If so, he doesn’t really love you for who you are, but for a role you play in his psyche, reminding him of his father. As I said before, your bond might be based on trauma, not on true appreciation for each other.

     

    in reply to: Really struggling #382399
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    Dear Richard,

    what sticks out to me reading your posts is that you mentioned your father several times, both in your previous thread and now, but you haven’t mentioned your mother. May I ask what’s your relationship with your mother? Is she still alive?

    in reply to: wouldn’t be a mercy if i just ended my life? #382392
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    Hi Murtaza,

    i like to say babies NEEDS love, not deserve it, deserving for me requires effort to the part that deserves, how else would you deserve it?

    Alright, it wasn’t the best expression: a child needs love to develop properly. You didn’t get it. Perhaps you got conditional love, e.g. your mother was nice to you when you didn’t bother her, when you didn’t express you fears and your need for her love and care and soothing.

    i refuse to put my needs at the mercy of other people, and i refuse to be controlled in order to get “love”, to change my values and goals just to pursue an idea

    You don’t need to be at the mercy of other people. If you give love to your inner child, you’ll be “filled”, your basic emotional needs will be met. It’s like neutralizing the bad effects of childhood and upbringing, and building the capacity for happiness.

    What I am telling you is that you don’t need to suppress the longing of your heart

    Ofcourse i do, otherwise i will just need them obsessively, without having them

    The true longing of your heart, as a child, was to be loved by your parents. You can fill that longing by being a loving, compassionate parent to your inner child.

    You can start loving that anxious, fearful, lonely boy right now

    Why did you assumed that i don’t? I already gave him what he want, a life that easy and doesn’t have much pain, he needs things that i can’t provide, things that outside of my control, and i only foucs on what under my control

    I know you haven’t given him what he needs, because you believe the best option would be take your own life. A loved and cherished child wouldn’t think or feel that way.

    What you actually said about your inner child is that you’re aware of him but you suppressed him (“i was aware of this persona for a whole 2 years, and i leaned that it must not get out, it will cause more pain, and it did, when i saw reality, how ugly it is, i accept this fact, that this persona should always stay hidden“). You’re not loving him by suppressing him. You’re not giving him an easy life by making him stay hidden, by telling him not to have feelings, or hopes or dreams.

    he needs things that i can’t provide, things that outside of my control,

    Actually, you can provide the love he needs. I told you how to do it: to accept him, acknowledge his needs, tell him you love him, that he’s welcome in your life, and that you will take care of him from now on. You can do that even without a therapist: you, the adult Murtaza, can be a loving parent to the little boy Murtaza. Instead of suppressing him. That would be the path to healing.

    Because if you suppress him, you’re just deepening the childhood wound where he had to stay hidden, not to disturb your mother. You’re perpetuating the pain and misery. But if you embrace him, you’re healing his wounds, and as I said earlier, building the capacity for your happiness and fulfillment as adult.

     

    in reply to: wouldn’t be a mercy if i just ended my life? #382386
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    Hi Murtaza,

    Following that logic then my mother deserve better, and my father deserves better, almost everyone deserves better,

    Yes, every child who was mistreated deserves better. A child deserves, i.e. should be given proper love and nurturance, in order to develop properly, both physically and emotionally. In order for a healthy development to happen, what is needed is the so-called secure attachment with the primary caregiver (usually mother), where the child feels safe and is able to have all its core emotional needs met.

    If your mother didn’t understand a child’s needs (“Nope, she doesn’t understand the child needs for such things“), she couldn’t provide secure attachment for you, and you couldn’t develop in healthy way, emotionally.

    just makes you have an idea that you inheritly deserve something without any effort, i don’t think that’s a nice idea to have, not true either, love is something you buy, and im not talking about money, im talking about prices we must pay to get love

    If we have a loving parent, a parent who knows how to meet our needs, we won’t feel like we have to pay anything or do anything to deserve the parent’s love. A good parent gives selflessly, of course within certain boundaries, but they never require the child to suppress themselves or to suffer in exchange for love. For example, they would never give the message to a child that “I love you only if you don’t bother me with your problems”. Instead, they would say “I love you regardless of what trouble you may get into. I will never reject you. Come to me whenever you need me and we’ll figure something out.” With a loving  parent, a child isn’t terrified of being judged and condemned, but feels heard and understood.

    Many children feel and experience that their parent’s love is conditional and that they need to pay a certain price to be loved. They need to become someone they are not (e.g. you may have needed to pretend that you’re tough and resilient when in fact you were afraid and anxious. Or you may have needed to pretend that you don’t need anything, when in fact you needed your mother’s care and soothing.) You grew up with the belief (and experience) that you need to deserve love, and probably deserve it in a way which negates who you are, which denies the core of your being. You didn’t want that, and so you refused the whole idea of wanting love.

    But its my fault that i developed a strong apathy ? … i developed apathy just to protect me, a strong apathy, and im proud of myself for doing so

    No, it’s not your fault that you developed apathy. You developed it to protect you from false hope, from the pain of not receiving love. As a child and youth, it was a smart move because it protected you somewhat from heartbreak. But you also don’t like your life and feel you live like an animal, because if we suppress the longing of your heart, then that’s what we all end up being – animals, or robots/automatons. Such life doesn’t make sense indeed.

    What I am telling you is that you don’t need to suppress the longing of your heart. You don’t need to pay the price to be loved. You can start loving that anxious, fearful, lonely boy right now. You can give him unconditional love, which your mother and father weren’t able to. You can tell him it’s okay to be needy, to be afraid of the dark, to need comfort and soothing when he’s afraid, to need protection when he’s harassed… Do you think you could get in touch with the little boy Murtaza and give him some love and care?

     

    in reply to: wouldn’t be a mercy if i just ended my life? #382328
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    Hi Murtaza,

    thanks for sharing a little bit about your childhood. Your big brother and big sister harassed you when they took away your toy, i.e. stopped you from playing videogames, or watching your favorite TV show whenever they pleased. Children can be cruel like that, so their behavior isn’t that surprising, but what I see as a bigger problem is that your parents didn’t protect you, e.g. they didn’t set some rules of behavior for your older siblings, or some rules about when and under what conditions you can watch TV or play videogames. You were the weaker one and your parents just left you at the mercy of your older siblings. That probably left you feeling like they don’t care about you, and that no one cares about you in general, because that’s the experience you got in your family.

    When you started experiencing pain in your stomach during the night, your mother probably didn’t soothe you lovingly, didn’t take you in her arms and caressed you (or did she?), but she just gave you a cloth to warm up your tummy and left, I suppose? After a while she was bothered by you and got impatient, and then you even stopped complaining. This was another experience of not receiving nurturing love and care, which possibly could have left you with feeling unlovable, unworthy of love. Also, you were afraid of dark but were reluctant to tell that to your mother, not to bother her even more.

    You had to face fear and anxiety alone and suffer alone, without consolation of a parent. That’s the hardest thing for a child to experience – suffering alone, in silence, with no one there to help him. Feeling in pain, both physically and emotionally, probably feeling unlovable, unworthy, and thinking that no one cares about you. Also feeling helpless, because at that time, as a child, you truly were helpless, unable to stop your stomach pain or your fear and anxiety. This could very easily be the basis for feeling hopeless about life, because what’s life if one has to suffer endlessly and their loved ones don’t care about him.

    Later, when your uncle would beat you and your father would allow it, it just reaffirmed your experience from childhood when you were harassed by your older siblings: being harassed and helpless to stop the harassment, and being at the mercy of others, who had the “right” to harass you simply because they were older. It could have given you the idea that the world is cruel and unfair and arbitrary, and you don’t want to take any part in it, because it just causes you suffering.

    The girl you liked, Noor, probably showed you more care with that one gesture of putting ice on your foot, than your own mother. You felt that’s true love – someone caring about you and your well-being, and not letting you suffer.

    As a child you used you imagine that you were hurt by your loved ones – which is what actually happened: you were hurt by your loved ones. Only in your fantasy they would love you eventually, but in real life, they wouldn’t – they hurt you and they didn’t care too much about your feelings. You didn’t even dare to wake up your mother when your stomach hurt (or when you were thirsty but afraid to go get water in the dark) because you knew she would be disturbed.

    This is what I am seeing from what you’ve described: you suffered a lot as a child and no one cared about you (except Noor and perhaps some random people who were nice to you – like that pharmacist recently). You saw glimpses of love and care, but 99% of time love was suffering (because those you loved didn’t love you back) and therefore, love is “too unreal” for you, and you end up apathetic, unwilling to live. Because what’s life without love…

    you know im sick and tired of being the blame, no matter how much arguments i provide, no matter how much reasons i give, its always my fault,

    It’s not your fault that you didn’t get the love and care you deserved. It’s not your fault that you were harassed. It’s not your fault that you were afraid of the dark, and that your stomach hurt. None of it is your fault. You deserved to be loved and cared for and comforted, you deserved to watch your favorite TV show. Your needs and desires were completely legitimate, but they weren’t taken into consideration, you were trampled over. None of that was your fault. You deserve better.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    in reply to: wouldn’t be a mercy if i just ended my life? #382200
    Tee
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    Hi Murtaza,

    I am on holidays starting today, and won’t be spending too much time at the computer. But I am glad you showed a little bit of interest in healing, although don’t worry, I am not holding my breath 🙂 i.e. I have no expectations from you to go for it, to start unpacking your childhood or anything like that. I am pretty tired at the moment and not very focused, but I didn’t want to wait an entire day without replying.

    Since you offered your help, and you asked about my childhood, what exactly this help gonna be? and what exactly do you want me to talk about?

    Well, you can tell me a little about your childhood. How you felt, when were you happy, when were you sad or scared or embarrassed, how you felt around your parents (e.g. were they supportive or criticizing/punishing), etc etc. Whatever comes to mind that sort of stuck in your memory, either in a positive or a negative sense.

    I don’t want to give you advice but to help you understand things better, e.g. understand what emotional needs you haven’t had met, which then caused problems later in your life.

    I kinda like you teak, i miss this kind of people, the funny thing is, i lost them before i even have them, how fast did that happen, maybe there is an afterlife afterall, a community of kind people, a job that’s isn’t a waste of time, a reduced fear and anxiety, a partner, a different mindset, that would be heaven, too unreal, this motivates me to do it,

    OK, notice there’s a part of you, even if it’s a very slight small voice, which believes that maybe, just maybe, there are valuable things in life, and you could have them too. Just notice it. Try not to dismiss it immediately, even if it’s “too unreal”. I know you said you don’t want any advice, but this is a little bit of coaching, if you’re open to it.

    but i develope more apathy along the way when i don’t, im in this hole deeper and deeper, its too late now to fix, and we should close the whole hole

    And there’s the other part of you, who is apathetic, says there is no point, says it’s too late now to fix. It wants to give up. It has already given up.

    So there’s a small tiny hopeful part, almost unnoticeable, almost completely silent, very weak, and a big and strong hopeless part, which always wins the argument.

    If you could just notice those two parts – without judgment, without wanting to get rid of either of them. Just be aware of them, know that they are there. Tell me how this sounds to you, and if you’ve managed to notice those two parts inside of you?

     

    in reply to: body image & eating disorders #382161
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    Hi Dee,

    There is one instance that occurred while I was in high school that did leave me feeling a little indifferent and not supported by my mother. I had an appointment with my primary doctor when I was 16, where I expressed to my doctor that I was experiencing a lot of anxiety and would be interested in receiving any kind of help for that. My mother essentially brushed this off when my doctor relayed this information to her, and asked me if I really needed help.

    Yeah, this doesn’t sound supportive at all. She dismissed your feelings and asked you if you really need help. I can imagine that you were expected not to need help because “I never really “needed” any emotional support so I don’t think I received it.”

    All children need emotional support from their parents. There must be a reason why you thought you don’t need anything?

    I don’t know, hard to explain I guess I would say I had a fear of everything for a long time, I was very not open about things that I felt or thought. This has carried into my adulthood but not as severe.

    So you had fear and anxiety for a long time, and yet, you believed you don’t need emotional support from your parents. Perhaps you would have needed their help and support, but you thought you shouldn’t bother them because they had enough trouble with your brother? (I saw your discussion with anita on your other thread) If so, it’s not that you didn’t need it, but you suppressed that need. And then when you finally reached out to your doctor at the age of 16, sharing about your anxiety, your mother brushed it off as nothing. She wasn’t open to hearing about your problems, and it probably only confirmed your belief that you should suppress it, that you shouldn’t bother her with it. Do you think this is what might have happened?

    And then food could have easily served as comfort, as a distraction from painful feelings that you needed to suppress, and from fear and anxiety too…

     

     

    in reply to: wouldn’t be a mercy if i just ended my life? #382155
    Tee
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    Hi Murtaza,

    True self exists – because I’ve experienced it.

    Lol, and im the one who dismiss science based on my preference

    🙂 Okay, a better way to put it would be: true self exists – and I’ve experienced it (and not just me, but numerous other people).

    I wonder where does this come from? God? Destiny?

    Yes, our divine essence… btw I believe in God as love, not limited to any scripture…

    its all about “pure” love, where does this love come from? You think someone would love you purely?

    Here’s an example of pure, selfless love: you love a girl but she doesn’t love you back. You’re sad and all that, but you love her so much that you want her to be happy, you want what’s best for her, even if it’s not that she’d be with you. So you love her and let her go…

    people only love because its benefits them,

    In the above example, no, it doesn’t benefit the person directly, but still, it’s love…

     

    in reply to: wouldn’t be a mercy if i just ended my life? #382144
    Tee
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    Hi Murtaza,

    Thank you for replaying teak, i should say that i needed validation to know that im not those things, but i thought about it and validate myself

    You’re welcome.

    As for the rest, I don’t want to argue or discuss further – you have a cemented opinion, and that’s it. I should say though that if you really had an interest in healing, you would find a way to scramble for at least one session, since you do have your father’s pension and seem to live a fairly pleasant life. It doesn’t seem like money should be such a huge problem for you, and even if it were, you could always get a temporary job to earn enough for the next session. But you don’t want to. And that’s fine, it’s your choice.

    True self exists – because I’ve experienced it. It’s our essence. It’s pure love and compassion and willingness to help, and faith and trust and lack of fear. It’s also where our unique gifts and talents are stored. That’s what I was referring to, not your wounded self.

     

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