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March 27, 2020 at 1:45 am #345698KkasxoParticipant
Ah ladies, what is going on in the world?!!
Honestly, I woke up this morning to work and I cried. I cried my eyes out. I’ve felt so numb during this whole time that today I just cried. I have been stuck at home for nearly two weeks now. I miss my family. I miss my friends. I miss human contact. I have wayyyyyyyyy too much time on my hands. What I’ve built to be my safe place is no longer serving me. The walls feel like they are absolutely closing in.I hope you are all safe. I hope you and your families are healthy. I hope your minds aren’t kicking the crap out of you. Sending love to you all!
March 27, 2020 at 4:02 am #345704CBParticipantJust wanted to say this thread has really helped.me in last few days of isolation. I am going through the most painful breakup as per my thread After 27 years together I find myself along and in total shock.The support you have shown to each other is amazing and the positive steps your all making gives me hope that things will get better
March 27, 2020 at 4:58 am #345708SammyParticipantThank you so much @genie and @shelbyville, I appreciate your feedback.
It hurt like hell yesterday. His scent lingered on the duvets so I had to wash them. His toothbrush was still in the bathroom so in a moment of anger i rubbed it the toilet. How could he do this..hoping to punish him then it dawned on me he wasn’t coming back and if he was I wouldn’t do that to him. So i curled in a ball on the bathroom floor and sobbed for an hour until the phone rang. I ran hoping it was him but my heart shattered into further pieces when it wasn’t. So I turned to the bottle again.
Today I just feel sombre. The tears are dried up. I feel like im in a thick fog I can’t see clearly and find it too much effort to push through it.
I’m worried the drinking is becoming a crutch in itself. The thought of going sober and being alone with all of my thoughts scares me but so does the idea of becoming addicted to it. The good thing is with the state of the world I’m running out of supply and with my anxiety there’s no chance of leaving to stock up. So I’ll have no choice but to sober up.
This crisis has it’s own weird positives in the sense when I get fleeting moments of clarity I too think the man I loved just up and left me without looking back. It wasn’t a mutual decision. It wasn’t discussed. He said his piece which I realise for him would have taken a lot but just like the communication throughout the 4 years he chose to avoid proper discussion. He didn’t give me time to adjust, respond or check how I felt about the situation. He just walked away.
What you are saying about loving myself is true. I’ve never had anyone appreciate me. I’ve always felt like the weakling in the family dynamic. I always felt anything I did didn’t meet others expectations. My worth has always been low.
@shelbyville I noticed you are still in touch with your ex…..is there still a chance for a reunion? Do you feel you and I can be the very few that make it work? Or am I really the desperate, needy woman who has lost who she is in what was most likely another form of addiction. A drug which made me feel better about all my insecurities. Made me mask who I really am and avoid facing the problems within me?My friend who rang me again last night to check I was coping is incredibly clever and studies psychology. She said Sammy I didn’t mean to hurt you but I cant lie to you either, you need to hear it. She said what I thought was love wasn’t real love. She said when you are in real love with a person you are able to find peace in letting them go and no matter how much you want them your primary concern is their happiness. She said very few people experience or love in that way. It was unconditional.
She said real love doesn’t send you to therapy because you would either be in it or at peace without the person. This hit home.
She said I was addicted. What I was missing was the habit of having that person around, the safety and the idealised version I had in my head of our future together and dreams. I wasn’t missing him I was grieving the loss of those. If I was to look at the relationship properly I was happy to live off the crumbs of his attention even though he didn’t fulfil my needs at all but eventually the desire to realise those ideals would creep in and cause the issues. We were fundamentally not right for each other. She said it was all rooted in my attachment as a child. Is she right @shelbyville after years of therapy do you feel this is correct? All this time I think I’ve been in real love but how could I be if I don’t even have enough love for myself?
My thoughts are swinging from disgust to just desperation as I ring him frantically hoping he will pick up wanting answers. I can’t see my way out. I don’t see myself surviving this pain.
March 27, 2020 at 7:08 am #345720ShelbyvilleParticipantSammy,
Okay darlin’….slow down. You’re in the withdrawal stage. It’s okay. This is all normal. What you are feeling is normal…..and many many many of us have felt similar at different stages in our lives. You WILL be okay, but it won’t be today, or tomorrow, or Sunday even. It will be some time, but whenever you think you can’t survive the pain, remember you will. You just have to endure it for now.
Your friend has some valid points, but every single person on this earth is a product of their conditioning, their life experiences. Millions of people are content and happy in relationships that have not gone to therapy and done years of work on themselves and they feel love. Whatever that love is for them. I did love my ex…in the way I understood love, in how I saw love, from my upbringing, from my experiences, based on my insecurities etc. That was love to me. Are there lots of different types of love? Yes, because as humans, we always have the capacity to learn and to grow. So don’t diminish what you felt for your ex as nothing, as not being real, it was real for you. Now that he has left, it may teach you things about love and about the kind of love you want to give and want to receive.
I can’t see it working out with my ex. Realistically. If you stand back and look at the evidence. Not because I don’t care anymore, but the evidence is what it is. It DIDN’T work with us….THREE times. It didn’t work for a reason…or reasons. I believe everyone has the capacity to change and if two people go and work on themselves separately and grow and develop and come back together to start a brand new relationship which is totally different and are committed to various things, then maybe some reunions do work under those circumstances, but those circumstances don’t seem to be present for you or I. The men did not choose a life with us. That’s their right. We may want to be with them, but they have a right to make their own decisions. I certainly don’t want my ex to return to me just ‘cos I miss him and want a life with him. I would only want him if he wanted me, otherwise what’s the point? I hate the decision he made, but I respect his right to choose what he wants.
But it has taken me 10 months to even get to this stage…..so please understand, you are in the early stages of heartbreak. It’s all a bubble of pain and loss and anxiety right now. That’s okay. You will be okay. When you feel you can, try and push through to being sober, because yes i know it numbs, but remember it wears off…..and then that’s a low which is deeper than the low you felt before you started drinking. I’m inquisitive and I like to understand things, especially things I can’t control, it lessens my anxiety. So a couple of things I did in those initial days was read articles online, read books, listen to Ted Talks, which opened up little chinks of insight into why some people feel heartbreak in particular ways.
My support structure helped me at the time too, friends, family and this forum. I understand at the moment, we are in an incredibly restrictive situation as we can’t socially meet anyone, so try to come up with a plan to contact people incrementally on facetime or whatsapp to get you through each day. Sammy, I promise you will be okay if you just hold faith that it will get better, but for now, you need to be as strong as you can. Just strong enough to survive. If you can find little things to distract you for even ten minutes at a time, that’s lessening the pain for those ten minutes, so do it.
Anger often works for some people to move on. It’s not for me. I would rather respect people for their decisions and try to understand them than just get angry and tell myself I deserve better (when I don’t actually believe that). But I will say, you deserve to be loved the way you want to be loved. We are born deserving of being loved. Sometimes we lose that belief along the way, so let’s try and get it back eh? Deep breaths and telling yourself ‘this too shall pass’, because one day it will. The pain will just be less, you won’t notice it, it’ll creep up on you and you’ll realise you’re okay and feel that you will make it through.
I’ve missed you! I completely feel you….I don’t know what’s going on at the moment, I feel like I’m just dreaming and soon I will wake up and tell everyone about the crazy dream where the world has been turned upside down. I realise my four walls are not my friends. They have been closing in on my for days. I have now gotten an appointment for the Covid test next Monday, but honestly I feel silly even getting it now as I don’t feel ill anymore, but nonetheless I can’t take the chance around my Dad and brother. So everytime I am about to lose my mind in self isolation, I remember who I’m doing it for and it makes it worthwhile.
Adelaide, to be honest…you’re unreal. So mature and insightful, streets and streets ahead of me. As you will have noticed from my posts over all this time, I’m nowhere near as self assured as you. You can empathise with my situation, but you recognise patterns and behaviour far easier than I and you make excellent decisions to take care of yourself. Well done, I have to say I’m so impressed and your innate resourcefulness. Yes the interaction with my ex was strange, but it meant nothing as such. It meant more in my mind than it did in reality. I have not heard from him since and I don’t expect to. I know he has continued to work as his job is one that is done solo so he has no issues with social distancing. So while I have endless hours to ruminate and fantasise and over analyse, that dude is working away, not thinking about it at all, completely oblivious. You seem like a wonderful person to have in someone’s life, so you are indeed correct, if they don’t choose you, they seem to undervalue you and then you don’t want someone who undervalues you in your circle.
Family is……tricky. Believe me I know. Last night I fell asleep crying just because of the stresses this situation has put on my family and the dynamic and healthwise and priority wise and financially speaking. It’s all just….a lot. Anxiety and fear is high so everyone’s emotions are on high alert, so all you can do is look after you for now. You have taken care of your sister and I’m sure she will be extraordinarily careful in self isolation and in two weeks, everyone will be doing the best they can. So focus on that for now.
Genie, you’re so right, this thread has kept me from spirally off the deep end with anxiety so many times. And nowadays, it looks like the most effective way to communicate with people. I hope your anxiety is settling a little and you have developed routine which is bolstering your relationship with Jay even further. I feel like time seems so much like our enemy right now, just like when i was in the midst of heartbreak, when I wanted time to speed up, so I could get out the other side, so it could be months down the road when I’d be fine…..but my therapist always said, the only way out is through.
So well gotta just try and get through the next few weeks and hopefully before we know it, it’ll be the end of April and we’ll really have started to tackle this thing head on! Stay safe all. x
March 27, 2020 at 7:22 am #345722MichelleParticipantHey all.
Yep – I’m back in the UK. An interesting last few days for sure. Many cancelled flights, border closures and mandatory quarantine centres meant it was a little tricky to say the least to find a way back but the research paid off as our flight was one of a handful that flew just fine. Some fun and games with Vietnam immigration too – they are much tighter than the UK where you’d hardly have known it was lockdown when we came back via Heathrow. But we’re all good and now tucked up in our home which we fortunately always have well stocked. Our friends & families are all doing ok, even the at risk ones. So all a bit surreal but ok. Luckier than most for sure.
@Genie. I’m so proud of ya! You know what the most awesome thing you wrote was – that you would have turned your ex down even without having Jay on the scene. That’s just so good to hear – that you finally value yourself enough and understand that relationship won’t ever give you what you want and deserve. Love it.@ Adelaide. Same goes for you. It is amazing how a big event can help get clear perspective. I loved this that you wrote “I wish them both well, but want to put my energy into connections that are fulfilling and will be strengthened during this time, not connections that cause anxiety”. Exactly so. Our lives are shaped by our choices. If we choose to fill our lives with people who love and respect us – it’s a great life. If we choose to let people remain in our lives who do not, then you have no space to find those who will. It takes courage to let them go and trust that life without such people is better than life with them.
@Shelby. Congrats on surviving the meeting with the ex. It was always going to be tough. It’s a real slap in the face when they treat you like a friend and it’s clear they’ve moved on. Understand entirely why you are cutting back – it is very very easy to get anxious if you constantly read about the doom/gloom headlines screaming in from every direction. Keep it at what you can manage with. As I believe I’ve said many time irritatingly, nothing in life is in our control, as much as we would like it to be. We can just point our lives in the direction we want, make choices in line with that and then trust it’ll work out. Try not to go stir-crazy in your bedroom…that’s a tough isolation.
@Kkasxo. Hang in there m’dear. I know you especially love to be in control so I understand this is freaking you out big time. Try your best to sit with it, accept the things you can’t change and do the best about those you can. Talk to your friends and family as often as you can and stay connected, it’ll help. And scream on here as often as you like obviously 😉@ CB. I’m sorry to hear about your shock breakup. Losing someone after 27 years of life together is literally that – a huge huge shock. It’s not just the loss of the relationship but everything that goes with it, your life routines, your joint friends, families etc. So much is shared and it’s a huge wrench to try to become yourself again. All I can say is if you got as far back as my “back-story” in this thread then , yes, absolutely it does get better. It takes time, effort and lots of back and forth. Times when you feel like you have progressed and others when you can feel just as lonely and scared as on the first day. But eventually, it does heal, if you let it. And you can be happy again, I’m living proof as are many others who have also shared their stories. But for now, it’s about dealing with the shock and trying to accept the change. All the usual things to help are more difficult with all the C-19 stuff but do your best to be active, talk with friends, take care of yourself.
@Sammy. Similar to CB, I’m sorry for the pain and shock you are going through right now. I remember it well. You sound like you have a very smart friend who knows you very well and from everything you have shared she sounds like she’s on the money. I know at the moment it isn’t what you want to hear – what you want is someone to assure you he will miss you, regret his choice, come back for you. Make it all ‘ok’ again. And wanting sympathy is absolutely fine, natural. It’s a cr@p thing to be going through and an especially difficult time with all the C-19 restrictions. But the thing is, it wasn’t all ok, it’s just going to be a long while until you can see that as right now it just hurts too damn bad. Like so so many people on here, it wasn’t a healthy relationship and it wasn’t good for you. Yes, the drinking is a crutch already and I understand you want to blot out the pain. You can survive this and you can choose which way you want to come out. Just do it slowly, one step at a time. Listen to your friend, reach out for help where you can. Take care – you will get it through and there’s a lot of support here for you to do so.March 27, 2020 at 12:50 pm #345772GenieParticipantWow so much to catch up on but so grateful for the interactions. Yes I’m very lonely but I also like to think I can help someone somewhere whilst in quarantine.
@kkasxo so good to hear from you….i understand how overwhelming it must feel. Claustrophobia is real! Just try and get some fresh air in your garden, balcony or go for daily stroll locally. Yesterday in the uk at 8PM we all saluted and clapped for our doctors and nurses and carers it was such a special feeling as a collective. It is a reminder good still exists. Also feel your emotions. I’ve felt when I get antsy rather than play the thoughts in my head I shake them out.
@adelaide chick it’s so so good to hear you are generally doing ok. I wish I was half as eloquent and clear in my thoughts as you. Uou are doing incredible and I continually admire your strength. I just want to say don’t take it in a bad way but don’t let the heartbreak make you bitter you have a huge capacity to love and even though those who we loved left us don’t let it affect your future relationships in a negative way. Your brother is in love but I’m sure he loves your family too. Family is so important. Lovers come and go. Try repairing it even if you have to be the bigger person. Your ex and acquaintance is understandable. You invested a lot and they showed through their actions that they didn’t care enough. Or else they’d reach out to you too. So good job on cutting the cord. Move forward to making real deep connections.
@michelle I see you as mother hen so to hear you are proud of me made me unbelievably happy. I’m trying I really am. I’m giving Jay space and not being a leach and I’m proactively making more of an effort to checki in on him rather than expecting him to do the legwork so he knows I care. I’m so glad you got back safely and family are all good too. Keep posting I love your input.
@CB I mean I have no words. I went on your page but you have a conversation going with someone so I thought I’d reply here. So so sad to hear about your loss. After 27 years I can not fathom how you feel. I can only say maybe a midlife crisis? You share a son and so much history so I would not give up so easily. Why not let him have his space to rebel if you truly love him. In that time think about what you want. Did he actually fulfil your needs or did it become habitual? Sending warm hugs but I don’t have the experience and I can only say with time our wounds do heal. I really feel for you.
@Sammy wow your friends words although if I was to hear back in the early break up days I’d reject and find hard to swallow. I can honestly say now they are very very wise words. Michelle is right keep that friend close as you’ll heal much quicker. For now it is going to ache but you need to feel that pain to move towards recovery… so put down the drink. You are going to battle this and come out stronger. We are all here for you and you are loved and will find real love that will make you look back and smile.
@shelbyville I find you frustrating youre consistently so hard on yourself. Adelaide said it perfectly the way you handle the situation with your ex was amazing. That must have been very difficult knowing you want more. Your insight for Sammy shows you are so much further than you think. Stop dragging yourself down. You have come far we can all see your growth. Focus on your health, fingers crossed it’s not coronavirus. Keep positive. Write down on here, I’d find it an interesting read to see if what we believe about your journey is true.What have you learnt about yourself ?
What do you want in a future partner?
What do you crave?
In what way do you wish to be loved?
Then have the vision and belief that it will come. Final note only because of my situation with Jay and I and some resemblance I see in your connection with your new friend. The last lunch we had and the good heart to heart recommended by Adelaide was a pivotal changing point in my journey to finding real connections. He told me how I made him feel and it hurt to hear but it made me realise it I care about him I need to address those issues. We are friends on the cusp of a full relationship but without communication it would have broken away completely. I’d have lost a very good person in any form in my life. I suggest you do communicate with your new guy friend about how you felt. If he is as you described you may be surprised and understanding he is. Also any type of relationship is 2 way you have to give and receive.
Love you all xxxx
March 27, 2020 at 3:36 pm #345792SammyParticipantThank you everyone I just wanted to let you know my friend got so worried about my state of mind she ignored the lockdown rules and sent her husband to pick me up. I’m currently with her and her husband and feel awful. The hangover tomorrow and withdrawal is going to be hell. I don’t want to put her through that and she’s risked her wellbeing for me. How pathetic am I? A grown adult unable to accept the truth. I passed a mirror in her hallway and stood momentarily and didnt even recognise myself in the reflection.
I just wanted to let you know, I don’t know if anyone was concerned but for now Im safe. Thank you for your love.
March 28, 2020 at 12:56 am #345824MichelleParticipantHey Sammy. I for one am so glad to hear you are not alone right now. Your friend is truly a great friend – the best way to reward her is to simply do the best that you can. One step at a time. She’s clearly there to support you all the way, as are we. Everyone takes their own time to accept truths they don’t want to hear. Some never do. You will get there but don’t expect much more of yourself than simply surviving for now. Eat as best as you can. Get outside when it’s safe to do so and go for a walk. All the little things help. Take care and stay in touch.
March 28, 2020 at 1:01 am #345826MichelleParticipantPS @Genie – Ha, mother hen indeed…….how old do you think I am 😉 Appreciated and understood though. It’s so good to hear you are working on showing Jay he is appreciated, reaching out to him and checking on him. It is very very easy to simply want to be looked after and kept safe – but that’s a parental type relationship. Real relationships are give/take and supporting each other when needed as you are doing. I hope he’s noticing the difference 🙂
March 28, 2020 at 1:16 am #345828CBParticipant@ Michelle thanks for your kinds words I hope time really does help I just feel so lost and lonely and being in lockdown doesn’t help. People tell you to keep busy and try new things but that’s not possible at the moment my whole world was wrapped up in him and his family and it’s all gone in one conversation the shock is so so painful
@Genie thanks also for your kind words. It’s been three months I have soul searched as he feels it was very much habitual for me no I was happy loved my life and that’s what’s so hard it was such a shock to me. We had plans things we were going to do. The pain for me is as bad as the day he left i am finding it hard to move forwardThe Covid 19 situation has put many things for people into perspective for me it makes me miss him more and his family I should not be going through this alone I should have the m but I find contact with them all so painful
Lost and very very lonely
March 28, 2020 at 9:47 am #345884GenieParticipant@sammy we were all worried but glad you have such an amazing friend who would risk her own health to ensure your safety. It is going to take time for sure but like @michelle and @shelbyville said for now focus on SURVIVING. The hangover today must be awful but you’re going to her through this
@michelle I didn’t mean your old..I assume your in your 40s if I’m wrong soooooo sorry! Some of my friends the same age as me also are very motherly and mature I’d call them mother hen too if that makes you feel any better. Yes I’m being thoughtful to Jay’s emotions and feelings. Initiating and he has noticed because he said he can’t wait to kiss me again whenever it is that we meet. I felt like a giddy teen. Something to look forward to 🙂
@CB oh chick I’m awfully sorry. If he hasn’t changed his mind over 3 months I’d let him go. You need to heal and ask what it is that hou can do to be happy without him. I don’t think there is anything I can say to make your loss less painful. Maybe he is right people do get stuck together for years and it becomes habitual. Unless both parties work together to keep the spark going and working at the relationship then it will disintegrate. I think you are most likely as is the case for all of us missing the routine, the added benefits of a relationship like companionship and having someone to talk about your day or worries…it’s why you feel lonely. You will find that again and it will be with someone who wouldn’t just walk away that easily. Right now join new activities or clubs and work on things you never got to do whilst in a partnership. Have fun and with passage of time you will rise from the ashes like a Phoenix xxMarch 28, 2020 at 1:34 pm #345926CBParticipantGenie thanks for your kind words x Your right I do miss ‘akl those things but in these unprecedented times of lockdown I miss my family unit we should be going through this together but I feel alone with my worries and anxiety and the longer it goes on your trapped you can’t keep busy and do new things it’s so hard he’s taken so much from me family friends and my social contacts I don’t know where to start and move forward
Hope your in a good please and happy x
March 28, 2020 at 3:07 pm #345934GenieParticipant@CB I know this is the worst time to be going through a heartbreak. However flip it. Think if the positives what do you still have. Those things you feel he has stolen. Fight for them your son is both of yours. The in laws if they are good people will still keep you a part of their lives especially for their grandson sake. The friends who you shared are equally yours to keep so keep in touch via Skype, WhatsApp etc. Once the restrictions are lifted show him that you are your own person and will not be defeated or have everything stolen from you. He was cruel and selfish to walk away 3 months ago and his selfishness continues as after sharing 27 years with you he still didnt contact you at the minimum to make sure you are ok in these unprecedented times or wish you well. Shows his character. Not yours so it hurts, set yourself targets for what you want to do without him. I have found I’m very very anxious lately being away from my family. Worrying about my sister but I am channelling the concern into mini projects or tasks and sometimes I even blast music and shake off the nervous energy. Stupid but it works. Try exercise, maybe theres a stubborn part in your body you always wanted to lose. Do mindfulness activities for now work on calming the anxiety and not letting yourself believe all these people you shared with him will desert you too. Lots of love xx
March 29, 2020 at 12:05 am #345966CBParticipantGenie thanks for your posItive world I’ve been consumed with sadness last few days many years and feeling worthless But I need to refocus and try some positive steps I have given my self in whole to this family loving them good bad and the ugly unfortunately I haven’t received that love back in return neex. I’m totally .broken need rebuild I guess it’s so so hard Lockdown has become so overwhelming
March 29, 2020 at 12:29 am #345970MichelleParticipant@Genie. No worries at all and yep, I am absolutely in my forties – it’s just that I’ve never really been the mother hen type, just like to help people and provide different perspectives. It’s really cool Jay has noticed the difference – that has to make you feel good. Especially the part about wanting to kiss you again – I hope you responded suitably enthusiastically….. 😉
@CB Yeah, I get it. I lost almost my entire circle of friends too when I had my bad split. It’s a painful realisation when you work out you don’t have a life outside what you shared with your partner. It’s like on top of the huge betrayal and shock of losing the actual person, you’ve lost your entire life around them. To be honest, those first few months I was in no fit state to do all the “try new things, join clubs etc” stuff that makes sense later down the line – as/when we are allowed to start doing those kind of things. All I focused on was making my way through each day. Eating well and getting regular exercise. This last one I can’t emphasize strongly enough – there’s something about getting outside in nature and literally walking or running off the energy that helped keep me sane. If you are still allowed out where you are – try to do a walk each day and just breathe. Immerse yourself in the surroundings instead of staying in your head. It also sounds like your best friend was his sister? Did I get that correct? You know, a lot of people do stay friends with their ex’s family. She doesn’t have to be off limits to you for support but don’t expect or ask her to ‘choose sides’. But if she’s willing to listen to you – that was what helped me the most, people who would simply listen as I shared how much it hurt. And obviously we’re all here for you on this forum where you can scream and share as much or as little as you want to. You take care, it’s a tough time for all and even tougher when you’re dealing with it on your own unexpectedly. But you will be ok and it will get better. It’s just baby steps all the way. -
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