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  • #377867
    Danny
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    @Jay2023 Damn I was meant to press reply and ended up clicking report. I do apologise. @Sammy will have a field day!

    Are you sure it’s nothing like work, financial or other stress contributing?

    If it is just the picture update. Don’t be so hard on yourself, people make far worse mistakes. Resolve not to be sucked back in. She doesn’t care about you mate if she is selfish enough to insert herself both figuratively and literally to meet her needs whilst having no emotional awareness of the impact it could have on you by using you as a crutch and sex.

    If her relationship has gone pear shaped and she doesn’t have option 1,2,3 lined up don’t be surprised if she comes around again to her “safe bet” – you. But build your self worth and esteem to know better this time. That’s the only bombshell left so if you prepare mentally you’ll be ready. Sammy is far too empathetic about her in this situation in my opinion, I honestly think being a guy myself your memories are clouded by the physical aspect you enjoyed, I understand that entirely and getting hooked!

    What you’ll understand in your own time is if this woman had shown you support, uplifted you during difficulties,  shown kindness and care (like you did for her) then finding it difficult to cut all ties is expected because you grow to care about the person. Naturally you want to remain a part of their life in some form. But she only appears to want to be in your life for the selfish reasons. Keep reminding and drilling that fact home.

    Outdoor restaurants are open, go for a meal, do some shopping and plan activities to keep tou stimulated. Talk to other people, reconnect with friends you’ve not seen or spoken because of the pandemic, the loneliness will only grow if you isolate yourself or become introverted. Reach out to people yourself, it doesn’t have to always be the other way around. You’ll see positive changes before you know it.

     

    #377875
    Sammy
    Participant

    Hi boys or men if that makes you feel better lol

    Sorry for being absent today but I’ve been working hard to meet the deadline I missed last week. Finally done! Bring on the weekend!!!!

    I actually need some male advice from you two, it’s my bf birthday on 1st May and I normally like to spoil people on their birthdays but he really has made it clear to all his family this year he doesn’t want any gifts. I kind of know why but I still want to, if I went ahead, would I be wrong to?

    Sometimes you do a nice thing for someone, best of intentions but because you went against their wishes they get mad or get the hump. Don’t want to ruin his day or be on the receiving end of that unnecessarily. So tips please…….


    @Danny
    , awww I feel a little bit guilty for calling you out but I’m glad you took it in the spirit it was meant. You just had to go and further prove your in attentiveness by reporting Jay lol! 🤦🏼‍♀️

    Thank you so much for taking the time out for that little tribute. I’m touched, you’re right in the past I have been taken for granted by so many people and it it was painful but now I’ve learned to not expect anything. So those who do reach out, respond , take time out for me or express their gratitude, I really do appreciate them more than you know.

    Thank you @Jay2023 for your kind words too, I’m super pleased you are getting something out of this forum even if it’s a place to vent. Also I often get told I have the gift of the gab. Can get me into trouble too as you can imagine!

    There’s a lot to get up to speed with so I’m just going to cook dinner and I’ll get back to you with a proper reply this evening.

    #377892
    Sammy
    Participant

    Hi @Jay2023 

    So now that I have more time, I thought I’d respond properly. 

    The memories! How we cling to that wistful perspective. We can be our own worst enemy. We create an idealised version of the person. In reality what we actually had was not what we imagined. It’s confronting that truth that is hard. I have one question; were you 100% real and authentic with her? 

    If no, then that’s a red flag there, your emotional connection was never there. The trust and vulnerability you need for a successful relationship was lacking. 

    If yes, then the hard truth is you were not accepted or else she would choose to be with you. A person who sees all of you, your flaws and still chooses you is one who is worthy of your time, attention and love. Thats what your standards should be. 

    Don’t worry about filling your weekends, firstly unexpectedly things come up and sometimes learning to be okay with the silence and by yourself is just as important. It’s times like this the emotions that have been brewing inside can come to the forefront. This I know can be confronting. Who wants to face the hard truths, the critic, the sadness etc but it is an opportunity to finally pass through this wave of emotions rather than be suppressed. 

    Learning to cope with your emotions is incredibly important for your long term mental health and ability to form healthy relationship connections. You mentioned to Danny you feel anxious but you’re unsure. Sometimes it’s not as obvious as we think. Like when you’re angry with someone you’ll get hot and red. But if there’s a certain inner struggle or unconscious reaction happening, you will feel anxious the only way to deal with it is to try and identify its source. 

    When I used to get a negative emotional feeling, I’d sit and try to label it, where’s it coming from sometimes certain emotions manifest as a body pain or ailment. I’d write reasons for why i may be feeling it. Then I would express it sometimes that meant doing the hard thing and talking to someone. Sometimes it meant confronting the truth and the person. 

    Then I learned power of exercise to expel negative energy or excess energy and meditation to calm and find inner peace. It can help with the lack of sexual stimulation too. Have you considered incorporating both in a structural routine? I know you’re not spiritual but it may help to feed the soul. 

    I learned techniques to change the train of thought from negative to positive. Reframing. If you do it consistently you’ll reap the rewards. 

    Danny is right, sometimes we have to be brave enough to focus our attention on other connections. Do not be afraid to reach out yourself. To be frank romantic connections aren’t the only ones that matter, you know! 

    As humans we are sociable creatures we need connection. To connect with meaning, you have to practice being vulnerable and sharing your real self with those you can trust. You may already have lots of friends or acquaintances but often they never really see the deeper feelings or wounds or you. So maybe you should focus on connecting with someone who you can be 100% you with, this is hard to find i know but seeking to share a bond that goes beneath the surface can be powerful for healing and growth. Maybe that’s all you need right now. To explore who you really are, where you want to go, to talk to someone about your concerns and not feel alien, to lean on someone. If you reciprocate you can form a unique connection.

    Later who knows? They often say date your best friend. As I get older I realise relationships based on a strong foundation of friendship are incredible. If your connection ends up being with a female and you develop romantic attraction then you’ve hit the jackpot. If not you’ve still won because you have a connection that most crave! 

    Just to add you found the week challenging mentally. But did you reflect on the fact you have survived, you didn’t crumble. You made it through. So well done! You’re progressing without even realising. Try that exercise Danny posted. It might help clarify the memories you miss were incomplete and you can have the full picture in time after healing and growth.

    #377916
    Jay
    Participant

    Afternoon guys, hope your all having a good weekend! Feel a lot better today, last night I come in and fell asleep at half 8 and woke up early, considered sitting in but decided to venture out as it was a nice day, sat down a seafront pub for a few hours and drank j20s! I’ve popped to a friends and will probably go home to chill a bit later.

    Sammy I appreciate your last post, a lot of effort and food for thought with that one, I feel I was always authentic with her, she knew how much I was into her and would do anything for her, this gave her all the power and i think this caused her to lose attraction, something I will definitely be working on for any future relationships where I will not be trying so hard to people please. The anxiety comes and goes, I think it’s mainly after periods where I am overthinking, today I’ve not had much time to think about things from socialising so really I need to be putting myself in more situations where I’m not able to overthink. I know once I speak to someone and learn CBT techniques that will also help.

    The question you asked about the birthday gift, my personal view would to be get something with a lot of thought and too expensive, me personally I hate to receive gifts even at Christmas but if its something that’s had a lot of thought it’s made me feel really emotionally happy and meant a lot. I’m sure he will feel the same and you cannot be annoyed at someone showing how much they care by giving you a thoughtful gift.

    Danny can’t believe you reported me lol, I had to look back at what I wrote and thought I had offended someone! All good, thanks for the words of encouragement.

    Sammy your right I have made it through a difficult week, hopefully this one I will feel better, today has been a breath of fresh air, I’ve stuck to laying off the booze which is a big thing for me and I’ve got out of my house and socialised without being too sad so onwards and upwards 🙂

    • This reply was modified 3 years ago by Jay.
    #377958
    Sammy
    Participant

    @Jay2023 lovely to read you’ve really enjoyed the sunshine today and great job – staying sober! Do you live near the seafront? You’re so lucky! I love the water! I had a lovely chilled bbq today in my new garden with my bestie, her partner and my bf. The weather really does uplift you,it’s a shame it’s 95% time miserable here in the UK. 

    Thanks for appreciating the previous post, I did take time to really think about what may help you. I hope the methods I used prove useful in some way and like you said food for thought on finding a different connection and meditation. 

    One thing I have picked up on in your recent post and previously too is that you mention “power”. It strikes me as if you feel the need after rejection, to play games. Danny and Tim both went this way and if you’ve read their posts you’ll notice there was a lot of collateral. 

    I can just imagine that you’ve read a lot of rubbish dating advice out there that encourages power play moves to keep the attraction or “protect yourself”. But if you believe in yourself and know what you deserve and want there’s never a need to do this. 

    Correct me if I’m wrong I feel you’d now wait x amount of time to reply or give people the silent treatment, ignore or leave someone on read to act disinterested or passive aggressive rather than be authentic to your real feelings. 

    Doing something to achieve a certain reaction no matter how we dress it is manipulative. I’ve done my own version too played hard to get, make a guy jealous, ignore his messages in order to prove a point in the past. I’ll openly admit it was immature and selfish. 

    Playing these relationships games often happens when we are seeking something—such as control, validation, ego boost, sex, emotional soothing. 

    It will not lead to a healthy partnership whatsoever. It just drives people away. You miss out on meaningful relationships. 

    Mature adult relationships entail having open honest communication, vulnerability and being authentic about your needs and wants. 

    Guess what, the sad truth is a majority were never taught or never had an innate ability, so lack emotional intelligence. 

    Instead of learning to communicate, empathise. They stonewall, act passive aggressive etc. instead of dealing and verbalising their actual feelings be it negative or positive. 

    An example one of my closest friends is stunning girl, great job. A guys dream catch especially with her libido. But all her relationships have ended because at first the men felt on cloud nine with the regular great sex but then realised when she was upset or emotional she would use sex as an outlet instead of dealing with the emotions and working through them, creating an emotional bond and trust so they all ended up feeling like a means to an end. The relationship ended. 

    Most people don’t know who they are, let alone what they want or feel. They’re not even ready or try to find happiness in someone else. Consequently attracting drama filled volatile relationships because the lack of emotional regulation becomes norm. 

    One key thing to remember is if a person doesn’t like you when you’ve been fully authentic then you have to be so self assured, that you walk away. That’s when you have true power. 

    So I really hope you bypass the typical immature route that Tim or Danny found themselves going down and really reflect on what I wrote there. Don’t mean to lecture you or condescend but it’s something I felt a lot of people but especially men need to hear. 

    Back to your other points, yes occupying the brain will definitely help reduce the rumination. So keep active! CBT will do wonders too hopefully. When do you get your session? 

    I’m liking your positive spirit onwards and upwards for sure! Focus on that goal. 

    Thank you for the advice about the present. I too thought a gift would be nice. Showing you care about someone should be well received but sometimes it isn’t. I have been in situations where I’ve done something with the best of intentions and when it is not received well I can’t help but get a little upset. So I’m wary of going against someone’s wishes. It’s always so difficult. This is one of those occasions where my overthinking can get me frustrated. 

    Anyway let’s shift the focus to if I did get him something, what do you suggest? I struggle with gifts for men all you like is gaming and beer! What are some thoughtful presents you’ve received that have touched you? Any help would be welcomed! And why do you hate receiving presents is it a male thing?

    #377990
    Jay
    Participant

    Afternoon Sammy, duly noted from your last post, I will say I’m not into playing games at all, all I will say is at first there was attraction, the way I am in relationships is I want to help in anyway possible, I listened to a lot of the problems she had going on in her life and tried to give advice, we did have an emotional bond to a certain extent because we shared everything, she opened up to a lot of personal history so we was close, this in a sense killed the passion in the relationship. For me being best friends as well lovers is what I want, for her it killed the attraction, I know everybody is individual and she has her own issues with comittment, I’ve given up trying to work it all out as it was clear to her it wasn’t meant to be anymore than what it was. As I said before I’m a very honest person and I’m not into inflating my ego, I’m just looking for someone i can trust, get along with and share a mutual love for each other.

    Ideas for bday gifts, personalised gifts means a lot to me from someone I care about, I suppose it depends what means a lot to him. Its just a personal preference I think with gifts, don’t think gender comes into I know people who like to get whatever they can out of their partner, I just get more out giving someone a nice gift they appreciate rather receiving one, not to say I don’t like a surprise gift though because that shows that someone has gone out of there way to make you feel special.

    I’ve not heard anything about an appointment thus far, can imagine there’s a big waiting list due to covid affecting a lot of peoples mental health.

    Hope you had a good day, I have just relaxed as not much going on today, all fresh for a new week! And yes I’m quite lucky to live near the seafront always something to do lol

    • This reply was modified 3 years ago by Jay.
    #377834
    Rhaenys
    Participant

    @Jay2023  I read your posts, and it seems to me I feel really similar on some points. I also don’t remember when was the last times I completley got over someone unless I meet someone else that got me interested.
    Even before relationships, I had crushes, until I met my nex crus. I’m not sure if this is normal? However there are people who feel like this, we are not the only ones.

    Actually, now, being single 10 monts, which is the most since I’ve been 23, I’m starting to get over my ex. Not completley, though. And I am chatting with someone else, so maybe that’s contributing. However, if I saw a pic of my ex with someone else, it would affect me, I know that.

    I guess there are people who always think that they can find someone better in relationships, and people like me, who are afraid they won’t find anyone better.. until they do. And I had low self confidence through my 20s. I don’t anymore, but now I project another problem – I know I am handsome enough and smart, and there are definitely guys who would like me, but I feel like there’s noboy here. And there was not many people I’ve meet in those last months. It’s like I always find a problem in my mind. First, I thought I was not handsome enough, now there are no guys my age who I like that are single.

    Also, I understand when you say ” I just feel like nothing is moving along for me at the moment and I know I have to be patient as these things take time”. I have that feeling still. I was sad for months, I cried almost every day. I don’t know. But I don’t have that “joie de vivre”. I’m kind of bored. Yes, I have friends and nice time with them, but them weekends or vacarions come, and friends go on trips with their partners, and I’m sitting at home. So iI tell my friends I have to be patient and better times will come. Summer is coming and I love summer, but I don’t know who will I even be able to go to beach with. I’m not mad mat my friends, not at all, I think they have right to do what makes them happy, and I would do similar probably, in their position. At least maybe before I experienced this myself, bein last one single during the pandemic. Now, I think I know it’s so hard, so if one of my friends broke up, I would go out with her sometims probably, because now I know how hard it is.

    I know people will tell me I shoudl be happy whether in relationship or not.. But I guess my biggest fear is being alone. And I’ve been already alone a lot, even in my previous relationships. Yes, we are all going to get alone eventually, when we get old, even if we have families. But I don’t want to spend big part of my life alone. The thought of going to work and coming in a empty home in my 40s scares me.

    #378033
    Rhaenys
    Participant

    Sorry guys, I haven’t been posting because my last post (that I wrote Friday maybe or even day before) was waiting for moderation and it is just now posted. This is not the First time. So I felt somewhat stupid to post again, before my last post was moderated, also I had a busy weekend.


    @Sammy

    About your question, I’m not sure why did your boyfriend ask not to get gifts? Because if he doesn’t want people to spend money these days on his birthday, maybe you could make him something, or buy something that ‘s not expensive but meaningful. Or you could plan a nice trip somewhere in natura for you two and make some food?

    Also, even though you’re been replying to Jay, I read your posts and they help me a lot too.

    I’m busy now, but I’m going to try to post later today. I wish everyone nice week.

    #378039
    Sammy
    Participant

    @Jay2023

    I’m glad you’re receptive. I’m even more glad that you seem like you wouldn’t change your natural kind nature to be a “bad boy” to attract the opposite gender like Tim and Danny thought. The hot and cold, the leaving texts on read,  stonewalling etc. have the desired effect but it leads to toxicity and is immaturity. In the end if the values and intentions are not aligned people get hurt.

    Keep being authentic. Emotional vulnerability can never be a passion killer, if anything it brings you closer knowing each others fears etc, to be a best friend and lover and find that in your partner is amazing. So do keep looking for that. Your partner that fits, would appreciate your exact needs and wants. There’s no point looking for someone who doesn’t support you, doesn’t understand your anxiety or dislikes attentiveness if that’s who you are.

    I think given you had an emotional bond as you said and were physical, the fact as a woman she still didn’t fall for you (because you offered what any great stable woman would want) indicates a major element was missing for her or she had no intention of ever pursuing it as a long term and just used you.

    Thank you for the advice on the presents. Its so difficult as I haven’t known him intimately for long but known of him as my besties bro. So I know his general likes and dislikes but not quite figured out any hidden things that would be special to him, i’m struggling, what kind of personalised things? Any suggestions that have been a winner for you.

    Like you I love to give. It makes me so happy but I equally would like to be spoilt too lol not out of obligation but its just nice. It is always rare for someone to go above and beyond but my new bf is very giving unlike my ex who would be terrible!

    Have you considered going privately for therapy. If you want to speed up the healing. I can imagine the waiting list will be very long.

    So lucky you have a beach to hand! Enjoy the weather and outdoors it’s been great!

    How are you feeling? Its a new week. Do the mental burdens of  last week feel further away?

    #378040
    Sammy
    Participant

    @Rhaenys thanks for your post! I’m glad my posts to Jay equally help you. I hope you have a good day and I’ll definitely consider those recommendations.

    #378044
    Jay
    Participant

    Hi Sammy, I’m feeling a lot better today and have renewed sense of strength within, I’ve not been focusing so much on the past but trying to think positively about the future, I’ll ride the wave as long I can lol.

    I would never change my core values, I’m very proud of how I am, I know my qualities and there is definitely someone out there who would appreciate them, it’s just a shame I’ve ended up being hurt by someone who didn’t value them when I cared so much for them, and yes I really do want to meet someone who accepts me for who I am and understands my issues and wants to support me and help me grow, as it stands I’m doing that by myself which I’m starting to feel good about.

    I will wait for the availability of a therapist, I might as well rather than pay for the service, I don’t think I need it desperately as I am coping but will benefit once it becomes available.

    I’m not the best at suggesting gifts but you can try a website called getting personal, I’ve bought little gifts from there before, think they do things like a message in a bottle, something like that would really mean the world to me personally.

    Weather has been lovely indeed today, I’ve been in a t-shirt trying to get some sun whilst at work!

    #378055
    Sammy
    Participant

    Afternoon @Jay2023 ! You sound so positive, ride the wave for sure!!!!

    Jay I know exactly how you feel, it’s so painful when you care and love someone with all your being , show them it but it just doesn’t register  and it’s not reciprocated! But looking back I’m so glad I endured that pain. I will never let anyone treat me like that again and I love myself more than ever.

    I can already see your self esteem improving so whatever you’re doing , continue to do so. So you’re ready for when that beautiful,  kind,  caring girl when she comes along,  who can understand your fears and anxiety. Who will encourage you to be better and will show you love and affection in gifts and words and plenty of emotional and physical intimacy.  When she comes don’t ever get complacent, don’t ever let her slip away because you’ll have learned gratitude and you will have learned self love to accept what you deserve. I’m hopeful for you Jay because you seem mature and not selfish in your actions. I don’t forsee you going down the wrong tracks. I think you really want to unprove.

    Thank you for the help with gifting, I’ve never used that website but sounds like a great idea. Message in a bottle how cute! He’s obsessed with plants and space so might look for a gift related to that.

    Get those rays , top up on your happiness and if you need anything tag me!

     

     

     

    #378063
    Danny
    Participant

    @Sammy mate,

    To answer your question about gifting. I know this will sound strange but don’t do it – respect his feelings. These feelings might change so obviously you need continuous dialogue but if he is insistent he doesn’t want a gift atm then don’t get him one.

    If he had only stated to yourself he didn’t want a gift, I would be concerned because then that means he doesn’t want the feeling of needing to reciprocate and feeling obliged to return. Not what you want in a new relationship! However he has expressed this wish to you and his family so you should take it seriously. Has he told you why?

    Getting him a gift will not make him happy or he will not feel the way you do when you gift. It’s about him, it’s his special day so you need to do what he would feel.

    If he is a mature individual and not one of those who are testing you, then I suspect his love language may be different or changed as a result of the pandemic.

    I don’t know how intimate you are yet but my suggestion is rather than a gift. Do something romantic. Send him on a trail to find you at the end ready for something like a massage, mini picnic and serious cuddling. Bake him a cake or do pizza making together.

    He probably doesn’t want the fuss of a surprise party, doesn’t want gifts because he has everything. He might prefer quality time. I would probe to see what it is he wants in a nice way! Don’t nag ahaha.

    Also @Jay2023 I did hurt my beautiful fiance through sheer selfish behaviour. I don’t know if you read about B and I? I can see why Sammy wanted to convey that point to you as a male, it’s s what we typically revert to when wounded and when we are immature.

    Just remember showing someone emotional vulnerability and expressing care is a beautiful thing, if they fail to accept, receive it graciously or even acknowledge your existence and value, then that is a reflection of them and their issues!

    Never let it affect who you are or your willingness to express love and care. You ought to continue in this vain and be happy because when you have no expectation and do things unconditionally it is done with the purest and right intention.

    Loving like this is rare and not easy for most, but it gives you a freedom, you’ll realise that no expectations,  no need for quid pro quo gives you freedom! It makes you stronger within.

    Great to see you’re in better spirits bro. You carry on and remain strong! You are on your way to better choices and better days ahead.

    • This reply was modified 3 years ago by Danny.
    #378065
    Jay
    Participant

    Thanks guys, I appreciate your kind words, I know I won’t feel like this all the time but if I can start getting to the point where the days I feel positive outnumber the days I feel down I’ll take that after the last 9 months. My best friend is going through a bad patch at the moment so I’m trying to focus on helping him, seeing him struggle at the moment has made me realise how well I’ve done to start making changes that will help me heal and better myself.

    I did have a sad moment today, had to go to Westminster in London and I passed a spot where we went on a memorable date, I did think to myself though when I do meet someone who is worthy, I’ll be sure to do special dates in London.

    Danny I did read through your story with B and it was a heart warming one, I’m glad you got a chance to make amends and it worked out for you both, for myself if I’m into someone that much I just haven’t got in myself to be anything other than genuine,  warm and loving, I’m not saying I’m perfect as everyone has faults I know I have a good heart.

    • This reply was modified 3 years ago by Jay.
    #378076
    Danny
    Participant

    @Jay2023 even with no heartbreak we can all experience rough days. It’s never linear bro so just keep reminding yourself even if spirits drop , they’ll pick up again. 9 months? I thought you broke up 2 months ago?

    Nostalgia. It’s one of those things. Even though I no longer have any desire for her everytime I pass the very first date spot of my ex it brings it back and I can’t help but smirk. I couldn’t keep my hands off her that evening. Oh how things change! Don’t think B would be too pleased to read this, better park that thought there.

    I’d like to think I have a good heart too bro ahaha,  I know I let myself down and I got lost a little focusing too much on the wounds from my past , meaning I missed the Angel in front of me. Its all good though I did right in the end,  it just made me realise never to take her for granted and also how strong our love was if we survived that. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

    Has your mate split up too? It might be a great bonding experience to heal together and spur each other to grow. Maybe this is the connection you need to focus on. Whereas I had to focus on dumping my lads! Bad bad advice offered by them.

     

     

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