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  • #232967
    Shelbyville
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    Aw those words were actually lovely to hear. The thought that the real me is still in there if only a little flame, makes me cry. I dunno, I guess because I feel so lost and so far from who I am and who I want to be.

    My struggle as being a HSP is that I have not yet reached enlightenment with it yet as such! I havé this battle with my therapist regularly! He believes we are the BEST type of humans on earth and the world is a better place because of us, whereas I’m still of the opinion that feeling this deeply about everything is the biggest pain in the butt and disadvantage I could possibly have. But it’s a work in progress.

    Im scared I’ll be 6 months, a year down the road and still feeling this bad. Forums help, but they can scare me too when I see some people are struggling still a year later.

    I feel detached from the world at the moment, I couldn’t care less what’s in the news, I don’t care if Zara has their new A/W in stores, I do NOT want to hear one more mention about Christmas parties! I know I seem like a kranky old lady but I’m perfectly polite and chatty with people, I don’t display how fed up I am, but inside I just don’t care.

    Christmas without him makes me sad. Not going on holidays makes me sad. Real physical pain. If I make it out of this (doubtful), I’m not risking this again. (Wrong attitude people would say, but it is what it is)

    Ill keep working on the mirror. Thanks so much for your advice.

     

    S x

    #232919
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    RebirthandRestart2018,

    Yes you are absolutely right. If I’m honest I probably would end up spending my evening looking for him amongst the thousands of people in the arena which isn’t good for my health or peace of mind. I think I may have to give the concert a miss.

    Actually also, your self-image theory might be quite good! I’m going to try and do that next time. I too am in the process of self-love and self discovery and I hope to get to a stage where I know I shouldn’t settle for less!

    Shelby – I too have heard of these stories however I don’t think they’ll be applicable to myself. My brother for one, separated from his first love (now wife) for some years and moved abroad. They reunited years later and now are happily married and have a beautiful son. However because of my urge to move on and move forward with or without him. I think if I really do go ahead with the decision to move on without him, it’ll be for good only because I cant really fully move on with the idea that maybe somewhere down the line we will reconcile.

    It truly is heartbreaking. But I think this decision calls for a closure conversation with him once and for all!

    #233049
    Victoria
    Participant

    Hi Shelby,

    ” ‘nah, look it, you’re a highly sensitive woman who loved beyond measure a commitment phobe. You thought it could work and it didn’t, so naturally you’re devastated. You’ll be ok’. So we shall see.” – I love how honest and frank your therapist is (:

     

    You will be ok and the anxiety will ease in time, I wish I was waking up early, I love it when it feels like you’re the only person awake and it’s just so relaxing.

     

    – V

    #233051
    Victoria
    Participant

    Hi Kkasxo,

    I have written on my whiteboard in my room “you are enough”, it really helps when I am feeling low, however, it does fail on days when I can’t quite believe it.

    In terms of the concert, see how you feel or just go for you. I have recently booked tickets to go to a gig at the end of November which should be fun. But I am known for not going to events due to nerves but I know if I go I won’t regret it.

    Self-love is difficult though, on one hand I’m trying to give myself tough love so I get up and function, on the other hand I am finding I’m telling myself to let myself relax if that’s what I really need.

     

    – V

    #233053
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Victoria,

    yes, he’s quite honest and frank. I’ve told him I’m not the kind of person who likes things sugar coated or vaguely described, I like straight forward explanations so we have a good relationship. He’s funny and kind too which helps.

    Does anyone know how to love oneself? I haven’t the foggiest. Genuinely I don’t think I love myself, where I’m from, if you loved yourself, you had ‘notions’. Loving yourself equalled conceit. But that’s not what I’m looking for. I know I don’t love myself and therefore how could I expect anyone else too either.

    Does anyone know how to achieve this? I’m not sure a bath and a manicure really go to the root of it. Do I just keep telling myself every day? Even if I don’t believe it?

    #233059
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby, Victoria,

    Lets explore this notion of self love a little bit. I think it means different things for different people. Some may invest into themselves spiritually, others physically and see this as a way of loving themselves.

    I think for us particularly, whilst lost in the heartbreak it is important to remind ourselves that perhaps self love for us is not allowing ourselves to settle for anything else than we deserve? Maybe it’s continuing to convince ourselves that we ARE worthy and deserve the love, affection, progress or whatever it is that we may want.

    What I’ve tried to do this evening is pin point all of the things I used to do for my ex. And I’m talking everything, from hanging his pjs on the radiator to keep them warm when he comes out of the bath on a winter evening to tending to him when he spent 16 weeks off work with a broken wrist. And I’m trying to see this from an outsider point of view. How would I feel if somebody did those things for me? And I’ll tell you what, I sure as hell would be so grateful and love that person for thinking of every tiny little detail to make my day that little bit brighter! And for that reason I AM worthy. I deserve for everything I give to be reciprocated to me. Perhaps I need to use that as a reminder to love myself enough to not settle for anything less than just that.

    As for the concert, I tried desperately once more to sell the tickets because although I do really want to go it just didn’t sit right with me. To my knowledge him and his mates managed to get a few tickets between them so I asked him if any of his other friends wanted them? And they did. So the tickets are gone. It ended up turning into an argument too because hey ho the expectations of a situation came creeping up again. When he offered to help with the sale of the tickets I appreciated it until I realised. Hey, ain’t you the one trying to get me back right now? Has it not even crossed your kind to say well seeing as were sort of speaking, and this was after all OUR event, would you like to come with?! But no, of course none of that crossed his mind at all (simpleton) so it turned into a big fuss and I left the tickets and went. I don’t know if at this point I’m being out of order for thinking those things or reacting it that way or is it just emotions are running high or whatever but everything is tense. Everything within me feels out of tune, literally.

    I can’t even pin point what I’m feeling anymore it’s like a whole load of anger towards him. A whole load of disappointment and just overall bleurgh. I’m knackered ladies, honestly. I don’t even recognise myself anymore. I’ve just had enough.

    Sorry for the sob story this evening!

    How are you all doing?

    #233061
    Victoria
    Participant

    Hi RebirthandRestart2018,

    “I’m slowly learning that it’s not healthy to “emotionally attach” myself to a man and pin my current and future “be all and end all” happiness on him.”  – I don’t know if this is relate-able but when I first got into my relationship my happiness came from him, he was someone in my life who made me happy but I didn’t think my happiness depended on him. I found that my happiness depended on him when I started having friendships break-down and felt isolated because he just got me. He saw me in every mood possible.

    I have found since breaking up with him I have forced myself to meet people and start delving into old interests, but I seem to have an intense fear to embrace life again and feel at a loss when I want to do an activity which is enjoyable for more than one person. I have some friends at the moment but they aren’t really close friendships so I am finding myself at a loss and spending a lot of time doing things on my own, I like my own company but I am getting fed up of only sharing experiences with myself or telling others about an experience that they could’ve shared with me.

    Self love seems to be a difficult journey as an adult, I felt like as a young child I was so sure in myself and had so much confidence in my abilities and now its just been torn down by others and now I doubt everything I do and my abilities.

    Have you felt any better today? Were you friends with the person you pursued a romantic relationship with? Usually a strong friendship is a good foundation for long-term relationships?

    – V

    #233063
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    You sound somewhat like me. He’s not doing what you would hope he would/should do. Like my ex, I had an idea of a way he should have behaved any time he let me down or what he SHOULD have said but didn’t. It became frustrating for me and then for him, because, he just didn’t think to behave that way, it didn’t enter his mind. He is who he is. In a way I look back at my ex now & the times I used to get mad or upset and I realise it was like I was getting mad at him for not knowing how to speak Spanish….but the guy doesn’t know how to speak Spanish, what do I expect?!

    Those are such loving things you did for your ex. I too did lots of thoughtful things for my ex and in truth, he did thoughtful things for me too. But I loved him and made him feel loved and secure, so that’s something I didn’t get in return which I guess I deserve.
    You feel rubbish again tonight….after another contact. So I guess ye are right, contact does not help. Anger is not necessarily a bad thing, it’s part of grief and actually when processed can help motivate to move on and accept. In one way, I wish I had anger towards my ex, those close to me are practically seething….but I got nada. I still think he’s the best human i’ve met.

    So perhaps for you, anger is your progress and you’re reaching the holy grail….the point at which you say….no more. My life can go on like this no more, something has to change.

    I hope so Kkasxo, seems to me you very much deserve to be happy.

    #233073
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby,

    Yep, contact does not help. It doesn’t, I know this. I just wish that now when he’s so open to communicating with me I was stronger in myself to withhold. I know better, why can’t I seem to do better?! It really is like an addiction and someone is literally waving drugs right in front of me and I can’t resist even though in the long run I feel even more run down!

    Honestly, what is wrong with me. I feel stupid as I write this because I KNOW it makes things 100x worse so why do I let him do this?!

    Please for the love of God just let this man have a sudden change of heart and shut me out for good. Because I don’t think I’m strong enough to do that for myself.

    #233079
    Victoria
    Participant

    Shelby, Kkasxo,

    So I am currently talking to my ex right now and I am just so angry. It stems from your points about the person not doing what we expect or not doing things that we know they can’t do and being angry e.g speaking spanish.

    So I am currently working on my communication so I am being rather blunt with him, so I confronted him about not messaging me to ask how I am or anything, especially as its something he’s done for 5 years and its weird him being so distant. Anyway, I’ve just confronted him about how come he’s being so distant because I feel like im chasing him I just want to feel like he wants me and not when I’m emotional, I just want to know he’s thought about me in some way, idek. So his response to me saying its a bit odd you havent even sent me messages to say hi was “well sorry, sending hugs” like excuse me?

    I’m so confused, I broke it off because I need to work on myself so our relationship can be the best it can be. He apparently thinks I’m the love of his life because he went to the effort to get a ring to propose and now I’m like making the effort to communicate etc with him he’s like deadpan. Part of me is telling myself he’s busy and I’m expecting too much, but ultimately his response isn’t making me feel enthusiastic to get things back on track and I feel like again I’m chasing him. In the same way I was the one who told him I was into him etc.

    I just feel really hurt and today has been a bad day because I feel like I’m going down a career path which has high wages but I don’t feel like I’m good enough. It’s been a bad day. I painted my nails as “self love” and I was suppose to dye my hair but I couldn’t be bothered. I’ m only eating food because I feel like I have to because otherwise I’ll feel worse.

    One minute things are going well, next minute I’m a mess.

     

    – V

    #233081
    Victoria
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    “I was stronger in myself to withhold. I know better” – I think it’s familiarity with the person. I feel like we have all been distracting ourselves but if we feel like there’s unfinished business even if it’s just friendship it is difficult to let go and even if we know better we will talk to the person.

    Even deleting his number I still wrote it down, just in case. Even though I know I should delete everything, but I don’t know where we stand so I’m not ready to do that.

    – V

    #233083
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Victoria,

    Trust me, I feel your pain. Quite frankly, I’m so over the whole ordeal now. Earlier on when the situation turned into a bit of a scene I found myself explaining myself and then about mid-argument I thought what the hell am I doing?! I really can’t be bothered for all this. This man has been with me for many many years and knows me enough to know my exact trail of thought and what I would expect etc. Especially that we literally never had these issues in our relationship, yes he couldn’t progress but he did always put me first.

    Im so tired of it all honestly. Right now, I literally want him to either be like right this is it no more hoping, no more dwelling so that we can just be done with this or to have some sort of crazy argument which causes it to be easier to let go.

    Im finding it almost impossible to let go of him (even though my rational mind, gut feeling and instinct tells me I should) because he is giving me puppy dog eyes about wanting to reconcile. It’s much easier to do so when things are going really shitty or you’re angry at the other person or in all honesty I’d prefer for him to just end things and then I could be like okay I’ve gotta get on with it now!

    Im so tired of entertaining the back and forth now and I know I’ve only got myself to blame for responding or allowing him the option to even get in touch with me. I know. You girls probably think I’m a fool, I think I’m a fool for it!

    I deleted his number some time ago but I know it off by heart don’t I so it’s not much help -_-‘

    I need to learn to stop letting my heart take over! Please someone just come and knock some sense into me!

    #233085
    Victoria
    Participant

    Kkasxo,

    “Quite frankly, I’m so over the whole ordeal now. Earlier on when the situation turned into a bit of a scene I found myself explaining myself and then about mid-argument I thought what the hell am I doing?! I really can’t be bothered for all this. This man has been with me for many many years and knows me enough to know my exact trail of thought and what I would expect etc. Especially that we literally never had these issues in our relationship, yes he couldn’t progress but he did always put me first.” – Yeah I know what you mean, was he in front of other people? I found my ex acted differently in front of other people at times where I’m there thinking why are you saying x? or acting like that?

    ” I literally want him to either be like right this is it no more hoping, no more dwelling so that we can just be done with this or to have some sort of crazy argument which causes it to be easier to let go.” – yeah I’m in the same position with my ex. Part of my brain is like we could make this work, he needs to show me he’s prepared to put in that effort that I feel like Im putting and have put in or I want us to have an argument so my brain can just be like “oh we broke up because we were arguing” it may be one argument but its enough for our brains to justify our decisions. I feel like I am just thinking about him all the time, Im sick of putting men on a pedastol because I just get so involved in them when they probably haven’t even thought about me. But I struggle with female friendships because of being stabbed in the back by them or feeling like I have to be a certain way for me to be invited to stuff.

    “he is giving me puppy dog eyes about wanting to reconcile.” – I hate it when guys do that! It’s so hard to resist!

    It’s much easier to do so when things are going really shitty or you’re angry at the other person or in all honesty I’d prefer for

    “Im so tired of entertaining the back and forth now and I know I’ve only got myself to blame for responding or allowing him the option to even get in touch with me. I know. You girls probably think I’m a fool, I think I’m a fool for it!” – Its natural instinct, especially if you’ve been missing him, maybe you are in love with what you could be still and not ready to really be realistic and be like he’s never going to progress.

    “I need to learn to stop letting my heart take over! Please someone just come and knock some sense into me!” – haha same!

    Another point is that, did you like his friends? I feel like as nice as my ex’s friends are I feel like I put up with them because he was mates with them? Idk, I feel like me and him could be a casual long-distance thing like casually dating/hooking up but I know he wants full commitment, I’m not sure I can do that.

    I think im talking to him again because I’m tired of being alone and giving myself pep-talks “you are pretty”, “he would want you to go out” – it’s like he had died.

    I went on tinder but just felt empty and dead inside. I didn’t even care to talk to anyone because I wanted to talk to him. Now he’s talking to me I’m angry because he hasn’t turned up with red roses on the doorstep saying take me back. I know thats ridiculous. I also cannot help but shake the feeling that he thinks im the issue and he doesn’t have to change anything. He feels like he has no reason to question why I may have felt second best in our relationship at times or maybe he’s acted to parental at times by accident (he’s older so when uni came along a lot of stuff he said was rather patronising and sounded like what my parents would say). Its odd, stuff he’s done or said isnt really an issue I just need him to understand why I see it as an issue and question if its worth it.

    I too, am feeling exhausted. I need a holiday but I’m too scared, even just to go and relax in a hotel on my own for the weekend.

     

    -V

    #233143
    Shelbyville
    Participant

    Ladies,

    ye are going through hell. There is no doubt and my heart goes out to ye. I’m in the same boat painwise.

    kkasxo, one thing I’ll say is that I know you want HIM to take control, but that’s not the hand you’ve been dealt, fortunately or unfortunately. Even if he made the decision- like my ex- it’s no easier. I’m finding it incredibly difficult to accept. There weee no harsh words, no big argument, just ended and apologised, it’s heartbreaking.

    Your ex is not behaving how you want him to behave….will this continue. If he’s not doing it now, will he ever? You had a loving long relationship where your lives were wrapped up together, of course ending that is like pulling your heart out one fish hook at a time.

    Pay attention to how hard you are being on yourself. I’ve even named my critical self….when she pops up, I say ‘oh hello martha’…come to pay a visit. Therapy suggestion. But you’re human and in love and dealing with immense loss, your reactions are normal. No-one has the might of Thor all the time.

    Once you make a decision though, if you feel it’s right, stick to it. Through hard days and loneliness and withdrawal, stick to it. You WILL get out the other side. I’m not convinced for myself, but I do think YOU will.

    Victoria,

    It sounds like your ex can’t give you what you need and maybe it’s a case you do need to work on you. Cliche as it sounds!

    Anxiety and not getting the reaction we want could be more to do with us than them. It makes sense that a healthy relationship and one that is successful is one where partners are not waiting on the words an actions of their partner to make them feel better. But believe me, I get it! I still want back with my ex despite everything that has happened. We are only human.

    Working on ourselves is not easy. It’s not all hair salon appointments and yoga and warm baths. It’s graft. Really growing and working in ourselves is tough, it’s scary, it can be painful at times and especially at times like now- you can’t see the benefit of it. I have worked on myself for two years and while I still don’t love who I am, if I stand back and look at it from emotional/psyche point of view, it was the right thing to do. I’m a better person for it, even if I don’t feel that way at the moment.

    I wonder how many posters on Tiny Buddha came online to discuss heartbreak etc and then posted months later after reconciling with their exes and all is well in the world. Not too many I’m guessing.

    YOU ARE ENOUGH Victoria. Everyone has issues. Everyone. If you’re willing to work on them, great and maybe a man who is understanding will be by your side as you do. But you deserve good girlfriends too. The world is not a bad place, there are some lovely people out there if we just give it a chance.

    My tummy is upside this morning and I’m feeling anxious. I feel like I’m going to contact my ex- despite all the evidence of how much worse it makes things- so Kkasxo, look at me- I have no sense at all! Where is the person to come along and shake me too!

     

    We’re in this together

     

    S x

    #233145
    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby – personally I would advise strongly against any contact. BUT I do realise that we all fall into that trap unfortunately.

    Although I must say you have been doing extremely well. You have had your moments of weakness but more often than not you’ve made the choice to not act on it so well done you!

    Victoria – yes it sounds that you have some work to do. From my understanding, you can’t quite commit to him at the moment for personal reasons but at the same time you want him to show up and let it be known that he will be waiting for when you are ready. I was unfortunately on the other end of the spectrum, the person waiting for a while and I can tell you first hand it is draining and absolutely heart breaking. You never know if you’re coming or going.

    Right now because we’ve kept the contact light AGAIN (I’m so angry at myself) I haven’t had the chance to see any actions and therefore i’d Be going into this with a blind fold not knowing what to expect. But I feel even the situation with the concert has kinda shown me enough.. I’m not the priority. So it is what it is.

    He txt last night following the ‘disagreement’. I’m not intending on replying.

    P.S – I am somewhat disappointed that I’m not gonna get to go to a concert I’ve beeb looking forward to for so long whilst he’s having the time of his life with his mates! I’m angry at the fact that I’ve had to put my life on pause so he can have his fun.

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