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anita
ParticipantDear Clara:
You are welcome!
“I have postponed the tattoo indeed…. I think anything that is so permanent, will make me recall the current status I am in“- I didn’t think about that, excellent point, definitely not the right time for a tattoo!
“Yesterday she texted me on the logistics of moving away… She has already rented a place… on the other hand, I feel like I don’t want to let her go, seeing her stuff not around empty would be an indication of that. My heart hurts, knowing that she doesn’t have feelings or love me anymore.“- the faster she moves out, the better. I too appreciate that she seems to accommodate you by moving her things sooner than later.
And I understand your heartache over lost love, and the difficult time you are going through. There is a saying: The Only Way Out is Through, and you are going through a break up. Be strong, you will find yourself sometime in the future, maybe sooner than you expect, feeling so much better.
anita
July 31, 2024 at 2:20 pm in reply to: Happy when I’m with my boyfriend, but upset when we’re not together? #435659anita
ParticipantDear t:
You are welcome and thank you for your appreciation and support!
“On the topic of CBT – this was one of the things that just didn’t work for me at therapy… I don’t think my problem is that I’m imagining things, but more that I overreact emotionally“- when you overreact (ex., crying at work or in public) to him not being honest and direct with you about how he feels (something he admits to and trying to change), what thoughts go through your mind, if any?
Can you give me an example of what specifically he said or did (or didn’t) that led to one of your biggest overreactions?
(I will soon be away from the computer for a few hours).
anita
July 31, 2024 at 11:49 am in reply to: Happy when I’m with my boyfriend, but upset when we’re not together? #435655anita
ParticipantDear t:
“Growing up my mother never communicated but expected me to read her mind and anticipate her moods and needs. If I didn’t do this, she would blow up and yell, throw things, etc. As a result I have a tendency to mind read… Since we’ve had similar experiences, I would love to hear what has helped for you in healing from your past if you’d be comfortable sharing… It’s just been hard to find a therapist I really click with. I’m not sure that talk therapy has much to offer me and am considering trying a different modality“–
– (1) My healing started with my first quality psychotherapy experience in 2011-13, and it was Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), with a heavy dose of Mindfulness. I looked specifically for a CBT therapist after reading and completing the Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Workbook for Dummies (one of the for dummies books, good at simplifying things). CBT is about challenging our thoughts, and when distorted/ inaccurate, replacing inaccurate thoughts with accurate thoughts. When this happens, the distress that accompanies inaccurate thoughts is lessened and we feel better.
An example from what you shared in your original post: “When we aren’t spending time together I am extremely emotional in ways I have never experienced before. It does interfere with the rest of my life: I have cried at work, cried in public“: when you aren’t spending time with him, certain thoughts go through your mind, and there is great distress accompanying these thoughts. Thought such as I will never see him again, he must have forgotten about me, etc. would be distressing. CBT would challenge these thoughts, for example, asking: what evidence do you have that he forgot about you? Perhaps he didn’t call you because he is busy? Etc.
If you catch yourself thinking: he is thinking that he doesn’t love me anymore (mind-reading/ assuming), CBT will challenge this thought: what evidence do you have that he is thinking this? Did you mind-read him/ assumed in the past, later to find out that your assumption was wrong? You can read more about CBT online or in books and workbooks.
(2) The Mindfulness part of my therapy started early with my therapist assigning me with a guided meditation ever day(one of Mark Williams’, an Oxford University expert on mindfulness). The purpose of these guided meditations is (over time of practice) to insert a calm space in between distressing thoughts, so that they don’t overwhelm you. This is part of emotion regulation: to experience emotions but not to be overwhelmed. There are other mindfulness exercises besides guided meditations. For example, a walking meditation. You can read further about emotion regulation online and in books/ workbooks.
(3) I decided to end all contact with my mother whose abusive behaviors over the years and decades have damaged me greatly. Last time I talked with her was on the phone in 2013. It took me a long time to feel okay about the no-contact, but it helped with my healing.
(4) I’ve been involved in these forums daily since May 2015, communicating with many hundreds of people over the years, and it’s been part of my healing.
(5) My irl interactions and communications with people increased, and that too, has been part of my healing.
What are your thoughts about what I shared so far?
anita
anita
ParticipantDear antarkala:
“I think this is exactly what is happening. Is there a way out of this? Or are we just not meant to be together”?- I reviewed (again), what you shared since March 23 this year, so to offer you my best answer, and I am glad to say that I have a new understanding this morning.
What you shared over time is a serious incompatibility between you and your boyfriend: an emotional, spiritual, social and familial-bonding incompatibilities.
Emotional incompatibility: you shared that you felt after more than a year of dating him “not very emotionally intimate” with him, that you “don’t know a lot about him“. You described him as “monotonous… mostly silent“, and when he is silent, you have thoughts like “‘how can he be so silent’, ‘I just want to have a heart felt conversation with him’“.
There is a lack of emotional and spiritual compatibility: “he is not spiritual. I would love to have conversations about his spiritual beliefs with my partner and it is something that would make me feel intimate and close to him… I turned to spirituality at a younger age – I am a very deep person and spirituality showed me a path in life…Since I got into a relationship with my boyfriend, I feel my spiritual life also took a backseat“.
There is a social incompatibility: “my boyfriend not being very social… I expect my partner to help me out in social situation… when I am with my boyfriend, I feel my social life and spiritual life are not thriving and it bothers me.. he is not helping me to keep the energy of the group up“.
There is a familial-bonding incompatibility: “I did tell my mother about my boyfriend and she told me he is not good enough for you.. I believe a marriage is not just about wife and husband but also about both families. I also keep thinking, if I marry my boyfriend, how compatible are our families?.. I want the family I marry into to bond well with mine… I’m afraid my parents won’t be able to bond well with them“- to start with, for families to bond (since this is what you value and want), your mother would have to approve of who you marry, she’d have to think that he is good enough for you.
You shared about the relationship, that you “always felt something was missing since the beginning“, that “the spark is missing… something is missing, especially attraction… my heart keeps saying something is missing – my heart doesn’t say yes!“- there’s a lot that’s missing: emotional, social, spiritual and familial-bonding compatibilities.
You wrote about him: “he is a wonderful and genuine person who cares for me and loves me… he has a wonderful personality – just a different type of wonderful than what I have in my head“- this is the biggest part of my new understanding this morning: he is wonderful compared to how your father behaved with your mother and with yourself in earlier years (your formative years: the most influential years in regard to a person’s brain formation), and he is wonderful in some ways compared to the few men you dated in the past.
This is what you experienced in regard to your father in earlier years: “my dad always used to criticize (your mother) after coming back home… whatever my mom says, my dad will criticize her and tell her she should have done something else… He is always dissatisfied with whatever she cooks… Whatever I did or spoke – my dad would tell me I did something wrong… my dad was being hard on me“- compared to this, your boyfriend is wonderful.
This is what you experienced in regard to men you dated: “I was the one always giving and initiating things… most prominent behavior was not being ready for commitment, not being open about the relationship and hiding it“- compared to this, your boyfriend is wonderful.
“My boyfriend is a wonderful man, I don’t want to weaken him by showing my disappointment… I feel this is unfair to my boyfriend, why should he go through this?“- I suggest (and it is for you to decide, of course, because it is you- not I- who will have to live with your decision): end the romantic part of the relationship for good. Do it as kindly as you can, and deeply apologize for not having done it earlier. He shouldn’t go through this, and neither should you. Reason: emotional, spiritual, social and familial-bonding incompatibilities.
Somewhere out there, there is a man who will treat you respectfully (unlike your father in earlier years and the men who hid the relationship with you), a man who will initiate things and be committed to you (unlike the men you dated).
But it may be that part of you (the masculine part) is attracted to less masculine men. Do you think that you will be attracted to a more masculine man, one who will initiate things, be social, an extrovert, confident and assertive?
Do you think that you can take on a more feminine role in a relationship with a more masculine man?
anita
July 31, 2024 at 8:08 am in reply to: “Giants Of The Nile” Bright Star – South Sudan Basketball Team. #435645anita
ParticipantDear Greg:
Thank you for your kind words!
“Yesterday was a martyr day in our where Dr. John Garang de Mabior died on 30th of July. The country was celebrating the heroic leader death“- Dr. John Garang de Mabior, June 23, 1945- July 30, 2005. For 22 years before he died, he led the Sudan People’s Liberation Army/ Movement (now known as South Sudan People’s Defense Forces) as a commander in chief during the second Sudanese civil war. He was a major influence leading to South Sudan’s Independence (July 9, 2011).
“We are waiting for the match to shrine. To all my fellow colleagues of Tinybuddha of this forum I want to bet with anyone. Brighter star GenZ Zigzaga Bright Star Rrrrrrrr Greg.“- the game took place today, with 110-84 as the final score. My best wishes to Bright Stars.. and to the South Sudanese people, including yourself, your wife and children!
Again, very good to read from you. I will be glad to read from you again.
anita
anita
ParticipantDear Zenith:
“My brain started telling me that I felt less anxious in India and its more lonely here. So I am worried about if I should settle here or go back to India and take care of my parents. How will I survive this anxiety when I get old? I am in my mid thirties lol. My brain started getting worried about future.“- (1) Time to talk back to your brain, says I, and tell it (kindly) that you need to focus on surviving anxiety today. Tell it that you’ll take care of future anxiety after you learn to take care of today’s anxiety, (2) I remember that you’ve been sending money for the care of your parents, so there’s someone there, in addition to your sister (and others) to care for your parents’ physical needs..?
(3) Remember the mix factor I mentioned earlier: mix some negative memories of your visit to India with the positive memories, so that you do not get into nostalgia (remembering only the positives and missing those too much). Here are some negatives from June 16, two weeks into your visit: “It just triggered my religious OCD. Everybody in my family are more religious and ocd is telling me that I am a bad Muslim… I don’t have the peace of mind… I did talk back to ocd instead of running away from it. But the voice in my head still persists. Its making me anxious and hard to sleep through it“- which brings me back to talking back to your brain/ OCD: as calmly as you can, tell it the truth and reject its untruths.
anita
anita
ParticipantDear Zenith: I will reply in the morning.
anita
July 30, 2024 at 5:58 pm in reply to: Happy when I’m with my boyfriend, but upset when we’re not together? #435611anita
ParticipantDear t:
I will share at length with you Wed morning (in about 14 hours from now)
anita
anita
Participantadding: fight mode against whom?
anita
anita
ParticipantDear Zenith:
I wish the title of your thread could apply to your anxiety, as in Passing anxiety. It’s a habit of the brain, by this point: the habit of getting anxious. What are you anxious about this afternoon?
anita
anita
ParticipantDear Zenith:
You miss your family, that’s understandable. It’s an old emotional attachment that got strengthened during the visit because of close physical proximity, and now you have to re-adjust to living far away from them. Did you notice if you already got used to the distance a bit since you are back here?
anita
July 30, 2024 at 10:49 am in reply to: Happy when I’m with my boyfriend, but upset when we’re not together? #435595anita
ParticipantDear t:
You are welcome! “Growing up my mother never communicated but expected me to read her mind and anticipate her moods and needs. If I didn’t do this, she would blow up and yell, throw things, etc. As a result I have a tendency to mind read others and try to keep them happy, and I assume a lot from little things“- it is as if I am reading about my mother and myself, same thing. What a coincidence.
“My boyfriend… is a very different person from my mother and would never become angry like that, but his behavior has similarities that put me on edge… he’s made a genuine effort to understand me and work on changing his behavior. He did promise to text back faster…“- it will take a combination of him being considerate of what puts you on edge and you healing from your childhood experience with your mother. Without dedication to healing on your part, no matter how hard he tries and for how long, it will not be enough.
“Emotional regulation is what I’m really struggling with… I am trying the normal things to calm down – taking walks, exercising, distraction, meditating, spending time with friends – which have helped a little but often just result in me crying in public.“- did you ever attend therapy? If so, what was the experience like?
anita
July 30, 2024 at 10:34 am in reply to: “Giants Of The Nile” Bright Star – South Sudan Basketball Team. #435590anita
ParticipantDear Greg:
So good to read from you and see your excitement and national pride for having Bright Stars play in the Olympics!
“Brighter star” Is a basketball team that represented South Sudan and the whole Africa in General… My best wishes to our team…God bless South Sudan“- this is your national pride as a South Sudanese, and your continental pride as an African, I like it!
“Tomorrow we are playing with USA and the whole of Africa believe BRIGHT STAR is gonna win the game“- I hope that Bright Stars wins the game tomorrow!
“Gregory. Former basketball player in High school back Uganda before I went to pursue my career Aviation“- I know of your career in aviation, didn’t know you were a basketball player in high school!
I read from nba. com/Newcomer South Sudan opening eyes on Paris Olympics stage (updated today) about Luol Deng who was born in Sudan, in the territory that is now South Sudan, into the Dinka tribe. His father moved the family to Egypt to escape the Second Sudanese Civil War when Luol was in grade school. His family moved to London, then to New Jersey for high school, and there, Luol, at 14, showed basketball promise. He went on to play 15 years in the NBA, most famously with the Chicago Bulls. He then retired and started a foundation to support grassroots players from his homeland- that was the beginning of Giants Of The Nile, Bright Stars!
“How have you been doing. I’m breathing well this side and the life has been making me not to rest. Feel free to say your opinion about tomorrow match between USA &SSD. Be bless dear. Greg.“- I am breathing well on this side of the world, and even better for reading from you today. I will be rooting for the Giants Of The Nile tomorrow!
anita
anita
ParticipantDear antarkala:
Still trying to answer your question from yesterday (“Why does he want me sooooo badly?“), in connection to his childhood. I re-read some of what you shared in this thread.
March 26: “My boyfriend’s dad, in his words, has not been a great father since his childhood. He did not work hard and did not proactively provide for the family“- growing up, your boyfriend did not have a strong male father figure in his life.
Growing up, you took on the role of a strong father male figure. I wrote to you back on March 27: “seems to me, antarkala, that your role reversal situation was that of you being your mother’s.. father, teaching her to stand up for herself, to act confidently and assertively, a parenting job traditionally done by the father in the family… for the purpose of helping her/ strengthening her, (you) took on the manly traditional role. So much so, that you even walked in a manly way“.
(In regard to walking in a manly way, I was referring to what you shared: “My school teacher once described me as a lady don to my dad and I once remember one of my teachers telling me my walk is too manly“).
On March 25, you wrote in regard to your boyfriend: “Initially, I did get thoughts like ‘maybe he is not strong enough’… “I don’t think he is manly enough’“.
My response to the quote right above was: “what this is telling me is that you need to.. finally not be The Strong One, to.. finally have someone else be the strong one, so that you can relax“.
In your reply to the above, on March 30, you posted: “‘Finally have someone else to be the strong one…. So that I can relax’ – in one sentence, this is all I want. You really understood where I’m coming from“.
It seems to me that his attraction to you may have to do with your appearance of male strength, such that he didn’t have growing up, a role you took on when you were growing up. But it’s only a role. You need a partner who will appear or actualize male strength, hence your dissatisfaction with him.
In your very first post, on March 23, you wrote: “we have been in a relationship for more than a year, I always felt something was missing since the beginning“. In your most recent post on July 29, you wrote: “since the beginning of the relationship whenever we catch up I am always telling her ‘there is something missing and the reason is him and it bothers me that he does not fight back or puts up with it’”- the missing-something may be the missing appearance or actualizing of male strength on his part.
You need him to be the strong male figure so that you can abandon your strong-male-figure role and relax into a female role, while he needs you.. to continue your strong-male role?
* When I mention male and female in this post, I am referring to masculine and feminine energies that exist in both genders.
anita
anita
ParticipantDear anonymous:
You are welcome! “While meditating those thoughts come back and I end up fighting with them… While for a certain moment I… feel calm. Then there are triggers and I get engulfed by fear, anxiety, guilt, shame and helplessness. Waking up in the morning is the worst time“- your brain is in the habit of getting engulfed by fear, anxiety, guilt and shame. It is difficult to break habits. It takes persistence and patience. It’s about extending the moments of calm over time.
About shame, can you elaborate on how it feels, for you, what thoughts are involved in the feeling?
anita
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