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anitaParticipantDear Confused:
I hear how confusing it is for you that she can only see the moment you panicked and lied, and not all the care and love you showed her. The intensity of her reaction tells me she wasnât just responding to what happened between you two â she was responding to something older, something that already lived inside her. When someone has been hurt before, even a small mistake can feel like a repeat of a much bigger wound. In that moment she couldnât separate the past from the present, and she couldnât see the version of you who was kind, supportive, and steady with her.
That doesnât mean your care wasnât real. You didnât erase the good memories â she just couldnât reach them while she was triggered. And thatâs why this feels so sudden and so absolute to you.
I also remember how anxious she was about the trip. Sometimes when someone is already overwhelmed, even a small mistake becomes the thing they hold onto so they can step away from something that feels too big or too scary. It doesnât mean the lie itself was huge â it means her fear was already strong, and this gave her a reason to cancel what she didnât feel ready for.
Youâre grieving something that mattered deeply, and youâre trying to make sense of a reaction that came from her own history, not from your worth. You can keep talking here. (I will be away from the computer for a while)
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anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
I can hear how heavy this is for you. When the protective layer drops, youâre feeling the full weight of losing someone who mattered deeply. The inside jokes, her voice, the small everyday moments â those are real losses, and it makes sense that youâre grieving them. Youâre trying to understand how someone who cared for you so much could suddenly say you âdestroyedâ the good in her. That kind of shift is confusing and painful, especially when only a week earlier she was thanking you for making her days better.
What youâre describing â her insecurity, her fear of rejection, the way the September incident stayed alive inside her â those things didnât disappear just because she said she was over them. Sometimes people want to be over something, they try to be, but the fear stays underneath. It doesnât mean you made her worse on purpose. It means both of you were carrying wounds that made the relationship fragile. You wanted to help her, and she wanted to be close to you, but her fear and your turmoil kept colliding.
I hear how much you valued her kindness, her thoughtfulness, the way she cared. Those memories are real. They mattered. And losing these things hurtsđ But her leaving doesnât erase the connection you had â it only shows that her fear became stronger than her ability to stay. Thatâs about her inner struggle, not your worth.
Right now, everything feels empty because you built a lot of meaning around her. That makes the void feel sharp. But this pain doesnât mean your life is pointless. It means youâre grieving something that was important to you. Youâre in a hard moment, but it wonât stay this way forever. You can keep talking here, and Iâll keep listening.
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anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused đ
I hear how much tenderness you still feel for her, even after the anger and the hurt. Youâre able to see both sides â the moments when she reacted from fear, and the moments when she showed care, softness, and generosity. It makes sense that your heart goes back to her, because youâre remembering the parts of her that felt warm and meaningful to you.
Youâre describing someone who is deeply insecure and easily triggered, especially around the September incident. When a person already feels ânot enough,â even small things can feel like threats, and they protect themselves by pulling away first. That doesnât excuse the hurtful moments, but it does explain them. Youâre also honest about your own turmoil â how you tried to stay gentle but were struggling inside too. It sounds like both of you were carrying wounds that made the relationship feel unstable.
I can see why you valued her kindness, her thoughtfulness, the way she cared about your wellâbeing and your family. Those things mattered to you. And I can also see why it was hard: her fear, your demons, the triggers on both sides. Youâre holding a lot of complexity, and youâre trying to make sense of it without blaming her or yourself. That shows your sincerity.
If you want to keep talking about this, Iâm here.
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anitaParticipantDear Girija đ
Thank you for explaining more. I can hear how heavy everything feels for you right now â not because youâre carrying your motherâs problems, but because youâre carrying the fear that life can suddenly become unstable again. That fear makes everything feel bigger, and it makes you feel smaller. I understand why you say you feel weak. When someone has lived with fear for so long, it can make even normal challenges feel overwhelming.
What you shared about work makes sense too. When someone already feels unsure inside, being treated rudely or dismissed in meetings can shake confidence even more. Itâs not that youâre not capable â itâs that your sense of self is fragile, so his behavior lands harder. And hearing that your teammates feel the same disrespect tells me this isnât about you being ânot enough.â Itâs the environment. You didnât imagine it. You didnât cause it.
I can also see how leaving the team was both necessary and frightening. Youâre starting over again, without the familiar patterns â even the unhealthy ones â and that can make the fear louder. Youâre used to looking outward for stability, and now youâre trying to find it inside yourself. Thatâs a big shift. It makes sense that you feel unsteady.
When you say, âI want to know itâs not me,â I hear how deeply you want a solid place inside yourself â a place that doesnât collapse every time life gets difficult. Youâre not asking for perfection. Youâre asking for a sense of being okay, of being capable, of being someone who can move through life without feeling like everything is a threat. Thatâs not too much to want.
Iâm here with you as you sort through all of this. You donât have to rush. You donât have to prove anything. You can keep sharing at your own pace, and Iâll keep listening.
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anitaParticipantDear Eva:
Thank you for sharing all of this. I can hear how much youâve been carrying, and how exhausting and confusing this cycle has been for you. What you described â the sudden warmth, the hope it awakens, and then the abrupt shift back into coldness and blame â would shake anyone. It makes sense that you felt something open in you when he was attentive, and that it hurt so deeply when it disappeared the next day.
What stands out to me most is your clarity. Youâre seeing the pattern as it is happening, not months later. Youâre noticing the contrast between how you feel when heâs present and how you feel when he withdraws. Youâre noticing how quickly your needs become âcomplaintsâ in his eyes, and how easily your affection becomes something he minimizes or criticizes. That awareness is yours. It comes from living this relationship day by day, and from knowing what it feels like in your own body.
Youâre not âthe problem.â Youâre someone who wants consistency, care, and basic emotional presence â and youâre noticing that the moments of warmth are brief, while the moments of dismissal and blame are long. Youâre noticing how hope keeps pulling you back in, and how quickly that hope turns into hurt again. None of this means youâre asking for too much. It means youâre asking for the minimum, and youâre seeing clearly when it isnât there.
I trust your ability to understand your own experience. You donât need to rush into any decision or conclusion. You can keep noticing what feels true for you, at your own pace, in your own words. Iâm here whenever you want to talk again. No pressure to respond until you feel ready.
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anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
“Too bad I have a lot of demons myself”- the Confused I know? đ¤.. I see-hear-feel no demons.
He’s not a mafia guy, not that I know. He’s rich though.. and lots of tattoos đ¤
I am not very focused this Sun night. I attended a music event, đ and đˇ- ed a bit. Will write more in the morning.
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anitaParticipantDear Girija đ
Mis-attunement I suppose means not paying enough attention to what the other person is saying, not only to the words, but the feeling behind the words, and rushing to offer interpretations and solutions before really listening.
And so, I want to truly listen to you.
“I am afraid of life and carry a belief that there’s a fundamental incompetence in me that might mess my life up”-
I can see how this belief leads to fear.
“The way he looked at me like I was adorable and intriguing”- I can see how addictive this can be.
And when you’re in a “cage of fear”, I can see how he gave you a temporary break from that cage.
“Only person she (the coworker) has to take care of is herself”- meaning, you feel that you need to, or have to take care of your mother? Other family members?
If so, that certainly adds weight to everything, as in any possible “incompetence” on your part harms those you’re “supposed” to take care of.
Am I understanding what you’re saying?
Have you been taking your family’s dysfunction as if it was something that you are supposed to fix?
“Trusting I’m not the problem”- I so wish to understand this sentence better.
I wonder if you were burdened all along, growing up and onward, by a belief that you’re supposed to fix things that wete out of your control, things you didn’t cause, things no child ( of any age) can fix?
I am asking because I really want to understand â¨ď¸
“I don’t want to be that afraid anymore”- if you were free to worry only about yourself, would you be less afraid?
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anitaParticipantSamy, I want to add something to what I wrote earlier. When I read your post, what stood out most was the courage in allowing yourself to hope again, even while youâre still carrying fear and loneliness. I didnât want my reflection about past misâattunement to pull the focus away from what you shared now. You were speaking from a very real, very present place, and I want to meet you there.
What you described â the heartbreak, the shame, the fear of the future, and also that small glimmer of âmaybe itâs okâ â thatâs the part I want to stay close to. Youâre not wrong for wanting love, or direction, or a life that feels like more than maintenance. And youâre not wrong for feeling afraid. Youâre simply in a moment where something in you is trying to move forward, even after everything thatâs happened.
Iâm here with you in this moment, not analyzing you, not explaining you â just seeing the strength it takes to write what you wrote.
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Samy:
Wow! I read through the first and last 2 pages of our communication back in 2022, which included me quoting from what you shared in 2019, and I am bamboozled (perhaps the right word to describe it, sounds like it) in regard to how mis- attuned my replies where.
And then, out of frustration that my (mis- attuned) replies were not helpful to you, I announced that I was withdrawing from your thread.
You were kind to me throughout my ongoing mis-attunement. Maybe because you’ve been used to not being seen, or heard or felt for so long đ
The co-worker you shared about yesterday, he “was just reassuring, validating…Someone who finally saw me”-
Is it a wonder you emotionally attached to him, following him to different teams?
A person starving for validation, starving to be seen- since birth, literally (remember your mother told you that she doesn’t even remember seeing you fir the first time?)-
Is it a wonder that being seen, or the appearance of being seen, is so intoxicating..more than rating at work?
Anita
anitaParticipantDear samy/ Girija:
How exciting to read from you again. I think that your very first post was on March 3, 2019. You were 23.. 7+ years later.. yes, 31 now. It’s Sat after midnight here. I’ll be back to you in the morning.
Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
The Greek guy.. well, he was born in New York. I suppose his parents were born in Greece. Iâll ask him next time where his family is from. He identifies as Greek Orthodox.
You wrote: âimagine me cursing at her? I would be done.â
But when she cursed at you, you were not done with her.
It makes me wonder if you kept yourself gentle and nonâreactive all this time so you wouldnât upset her. Thatâs a heavy emotional position to hold.
For a long time, I thought of her as soft, fragile, wounded, gentle â because thatâs how you described her. But her actual behavior toward you doesnât match that picture. Calling you names like ânarcissistic assholeâ says something real about how she handles conflict, not about gentleness.
Iâm not saying this to attack her. Iâm saying it because youâre starting to see the difference between who she actually was with you, and the version of her you carried inside. And that difference matters for your healing.
Your sister said: âOne day sheâs gonna realize how hard she fumbled because u are a wonderful guy that u donât meet often in life and u also donât fit in interrogation rooms-like relationships.â-
Ditto â I agree that youâre a rare, wonderful guy, and you donât deserve an interrogationâroomâlike relationship.
So, this was a pattern⌠the interrogations? And in between those, she was âcaring, compassionate and considerateâ? Iâm trying to understand how those two very different behaviors fit together.
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anitaParticipantJust want to let you know, Confused, that I am reading and will take some time responding (within the hour or so)
anitaParticipantHey â¨ď¸â¨ď¸â¨ď¸ Confused:
After I submitted my first reply to you this Saturday morning, I ran the post I replied to through Copilot and he said that indeed you expressed assertiveness and agency, telling her (paraphrased), that she is responsible for her own reactions,and that she was blaming and trying to hurt you so that she may feel better,
But right after, your assertiveness and agency sort of disappeared into her feelings: “I imagined her angry and crying and I wanna hug her tight”.
You can read the post before this one (by the way, I often ask Copilot to explain things to me in the simplest language), and tell me if it resonates- or not. It’s okay either way.
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anitaParticipantI am using the computer for a little while- quoting from Copilot:
“Emotional fusion (very simple definition)
Emotional fusion is when a personâs emotions get mixed together with someone elseâs so strongly that they canât tell where their feelings end and the other personâs begin.Itâs like their emotional boundaries melt.
Emotional absorption (very simple definition)
Emotional absorption is when someone takes in another personâs feelings as if those feelings are their own â they âabsorbâ the other personâs distress, fear, guilt, or sadness.Itâs empathy without a boundary.
The connection to selfâerasure (very simple explanation)
When someone fuses with or absorbs another personâs emotions, their own needs, feelings, and boundaries get pushed aside.
They stop asking:âWhat do I feel?â
âWhat do I need?â
âWhat is actually happening to me?â
Instead, they organize their behavior around the other personâs emotional state.
This is selfâerasure â the person disappears inside the other personâs feelings.
The simplest truth
Emotional fusion + emotional absorption â selfâerasure
Because when you carry someone elseâs emotions, you stop carrying your own.”-Will be back using the phone
anitaParticipantHey đ Confused:
Not really, I know JP for years as we frequented the same couple of places, one of which was the local taproom (now closed đ). He mentioned that he’s from Greece and told stories many times. He’s also a known collectors of classic cars, by the way.
I feel better about her having apologized for those 2 words she used. Still, I no longer see her as the consistently gentle person I thought she was.
I think that you were spot on when you told her that she was looking for ways to blame/ hurt you so that she could feel better.
I also agree with you saying that you’re NOT the problem causing her all the issues. I guess her thinking is that if she gets rid of “the problem”, she gets rid of her issues..?
Yes, like a murderer blaming the victim for how they reacted đ
“How we act is already within us”- I just had the positive feeling that I am reading the words of a wise man đ
You are welcome, Confused, and thank you for being who you are consistently: kind, thoughtful.. and wise đ
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