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ConfusedParticipantMaybe i never wrote about this so i will tell u now. Back in september, my ex’s sister (which is my friends girlfriend), asked me for a favor, to “Like” some instagram reels that her sister (my ex) participated in so she could gather likes and get the job. I didn’t think twice, handed her the phone and told her to do her thing. She liked i think 3 reels,i never thought anything, kept going on with my day. The next day, my gf (well, now ex :() saw said reels and we almost broke up because she felt a breach in her trust. She knew who my ex was and because of some stories that i shared with her in the beginning of our meet back in january, she felt very insecure and believed i wanted something with my ex, which was normal since it’s a LDR-nevermet situation, trust is very fragile. I told her what happened and after 10 days she decided that she wanted to try and trust me again. Now, after that time i went on a fit of rage and i would remove all the likes from my ex’s posts and from other girls that were showing up on my feed because i didn’t want her to feel like this with such situation ever again (female friends, nothing more), but she had already checked who i was following and saw some female profiles that had my likes on them. After some days she wanted to show them to her sister and she saw that i removed my likes and this raised her suspicions. Now normally i dont care about likes but since the september incident i was more cautious.
Today, she told me something along the lines “then why did u remove the likes from ur ex?” and i explained to her why. She then asked me if i had done it with other girls, i had forgotten for real and she said “well i checked this and that girl that u removed ur likes after september”. I remembered and i felt cornered and panicked that i would lose her. I told her no and that i dont remember doing that, she kept going on and asked me again “just tell me the truth, i am not crazy, i know what i saw”, i typed it and then erased it. I kept lying to her so she said “u know what? fine, i think i am so hurt that i dont even want to know u anymore”, so then i said “ok let’s tell her the truth, she deserves that at least” and i did tell her, not to try and save the relationship, i just didnt want her to feel like she’s crazy or i was cheating or smth. I told her why i did what i did and it was to protect her, she laughed and said “well, that’s one way to love someone i guess, but i don’t think i want this kind of love in my life”
I told her it’s alright, to take care and now that i’m out of the picture, all her friends will be happy she left the “asshole boyfriend that tortures her” and she will finally heal.. I cried a lot, she did too. I told her that no matter what, she’s the best thing ever happened to me and i will be waiting for her if she changes her mind, a man can only hope.. I sent her some final paragraphs pouring my heart out, some bear reels that we used to share and she said “stop, u are shattering my heart, making it so much harder”, removed my nickname and told me to respect her wish that she doesn’t wanna talk to me. I again told her i love her deeply and i hurt just as deeply and that i’ll be by her side in case she needs anything and that i miss her already and i wanna hug her tight. She sent me some sad emojis and hearts.. I told her she will forever be my precious little girl and i will be here for her if she changes her mind and wants to visit.. She said “please stop, it hurts.. goodnight”So, that was all… I acted dumb and i lied and ruined everything.. I know she is exhausted and i sensed that maybe she wanted a way out but idk… not like this 🙁
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Sadly we broke up an hour ago.. I fucked up big time. I lied to her about something stupid i did to protect her back in september (i removed my likes from most of the females i had on instagram so she wouldn’t feel weird) and today our convo somehow went there, she asked me why i did it but i had forgotten about it, i refused and then she asked me again, she said tell me the truth because i know, i saw it all in september. I froze, i panicked, i kept going on with my lie (because i wasnt expecting her to believe me if i told her the truth anyway) and she said she’s done and her trust is gone. Then i told her the truth because she deserves to know and not think i had anything going on with any other girl.
She said “why did u lie? was it so difficult? why?!” I told her i was scared of how she would react and at first i didn’t even remember that, but anyway i didn’t want us to end badly and her thinking i was pretending she’s crazy.I begged her to reconsider, i cried and cried, i felt my insides getting ripped out, now i feel empty, i cry in short bursts.. The future seems hollow without her, empty.. I told her how i felt that i was burdening her and now she can find peace and heal at least, without me in her life. I told her i love her 100 times and i will wait for her in case she changes her mind, showed her the gifts i was preparing for her, one Winnie teddy and 2 small teddy-candles that my mother used to own that i wrote our names on and on the back i wrote “Light me on fire” (the yellow one which is me) “so i can keep u company” (the green one, her) because it rhymes in greek. I also pierced a sea-shell and made it into a necklace for her, i was planning on giving them all to her when she would arrive but now that this is not happening, i told her i will send them to her, she said no but i said i will do it anyway, u can just throw it in the trash afterwards.
Idk anita… Ive been a person that never lies my whole life but i lied to my precious girl.. and i broke her heart and trust. For that i will be paying with my sanity 🙁
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Haha, excuse my poor memory, it’s a mess!
Yeah pretty much this. So this is a disorganized attachment thing? Gemini says could be burnout and my system can’t handle intense emotions for too long. I am watching a video of some people in an island and i am thinking of me & her there, enjoying the sunset, walking around the island, damn.. Also i was reminscing of my time @ germany with her and i am thinking maybe i should have appreciated it more.. I dont want this to be “a thing u appreciate after u lose it” case 🙁
ConfusedParticipantYeah when she’s happy about something she uses this emoji, the dancing woman.
Well i think it’s this and the fact that some weeks ago in a videocall i described a situation to her (because it was funny and we were discussing something similar) which involved another ex of mine (which was 7 years ago) and now she said that she gets “shutdown”/losing feelings (this is how we say it in greek) when i talk about my exes and i told her that it was just a funny story, what should i do? Change the characters? She still laughed with this but idk, it bothered her so i told her that it’s fine, i’ll never mention anything that involves an ex of mine. She asked me how would i feel if she would bring up stories with her ex and i told her, as long as u dont ruminate on your ex and u are just sharing a funny/weird story then i’m good, then she said “well, maybe then i’m the problem”, which she said like 3-4 times in our convo, including in the end, “maybe i’m just the paranoid one then, i am the problem”, i told her that the problem is her overthinking which makes her be alert and anxious all the time searching for threats and taking shit personally. To be fair i did mention my most recent ex when i visited her because i was describing a situation with her sister and my friend, so i had to mention her, but she is so insecure/upset with her.
Yeah she tries to hide negative feelings but they show, she gets distant, short-messages and a bit colder so i either have to accept it and wait for her to tell me or tell her. She also told me “u are not the center of the world, ive been dealing with very serious matters in my life in the past 3 days and i wasnt planning on having this convo today, arguing about ur ex and an airbnb”, to which i replied that it’s ironic how she thinks IM the center of the world, considering its us discussing her problems mostly.I was working, driving the scooter and i was crying when i would think of her and our time, everything. There are moments when something inside of me opens up and i cry a lot, i feel things, i want to tell her how much i love her and that she’s precious, but after a minute it all disappears again and im left feeling indifferent. What is this anita? I think we’ve talked about it again in the past. I remember how deeply i was feeling last year and how im struggling now.
I told her if she doesn’t come i will send her the money for the tickets she paid and she said hell no, it was my choice. But i am thinking of visiting her myself instead of sending her the money back if she doesn’t come. Damn, i want her to come, i wanted us to do so many things.. 🙁
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Its funny u posted that emoji because thats her emoji that she uses when she expresses happiness haha
I was like that too, but alcohol helped me as well. Now i can dance easier and i rarely care about what anyone says or how i look but still it feels weird.
So, yesterday night we argued and she felt like she doesn’t want to come now, so idk if we will meet at 9th of august. She texted me to tell me she booked hotel, then we chatted and i saw she was a bit distant/cold/short replies. So before we say good night i couldn’t hold it and i asked her what’s wrong, told her no need to force things. She said that what i did hurt her a lot, because i didn’t consider her feelings, and i was shocked because in my head i did nothing wrong, BUT, look at the case.. My ex (which has become a huge insecurity for her since the september incident, that i thought we had put behind us, apparently not) is my best friend’s girlfriend’s sister. So her sister told me that her aunt owns some Airbnbs in case my girl needs a place to stay and can drop the price a bit. I immediately told my gf that there is this option available in case she can’t find a place to stay. She said “it’s alright honey i will book a hotel anyway and thanks for the offer”, told her “yeah since the money isnt much different, but i just dropped on the table as an option, u can do ur thing”. 3 days pass, she says nothing, until i asked her yesterday. She said “how could u not think that i would feel hurt with u suggesting me to stay in ur ex’s aunt airbnb?!” I told her that my mind doesn’t work like that and i see it as a practical way to also save some money and that i haven’t even thought about my ex in this whole predicament, i basically have erased her existence from my mind. Also told her that from what i remember she and her aunt have no relationship, they barely talk. She insisted that this hurt her so then i opened up too, told her that things hurt me too, like in June when she said “i know i would be better off without u but i cant leave u”, then arguing about something else, then suddenly booking tickets one morning, telling me she loves me while crying and suddenly this. I asked her how would she feel and react if she was in my spot within all this push-pull. I also told her that sometimes i feel like my ex still haunts us and she said that this is my fault from september and i asked her when or how could this go away for good? She then said that “now i don’t feel like i want to come, i feel off/awkward”, i told her i still love her and want her to come and have some good times together, do the things we planned but i would understand if she wants to get away from me. She said she still loves me and that doesnt change within a day but she will think about it and thanked me for the space.
Now, i know she feels hurt but how could i know this would bother her? We had discussed it again back in october (the airbnb option) and she thanked me, said we’ll keep it in mind and never mentioned anything. I asked her “how can i know if things bother u after they havent bothered u the first time? am i a mind reader?” she said “well, u should be more considerate of my feelings and what could hurt me”.. I honestly don’t know, it feels like i have to walk on eggshells and be aware of every word i say. I explained to her how i think on those matters (because she asked me “would u be alright with me booking u a room on my EX’s father hotel?” i told her yes ofc, if it would mean i save money and find a good room, why not? i dont care about ur ex) and she said that we have a different thinking on some things. I told her that this is why she feels hurt, because she expects me to think like she does or read her mind on some matters.
Today as soon as i opened my eyes i had the “she’s not coming, maybe i screwed up” thought in my head, a heavy sinking feeling in my chest like melancholy and i cried. I went to the super market, saw a Winnie teddy bear and bought it with the hopes that she will come and i’ll give it to her (she calls me her teddy bear). It feels weird, empty and sad now 🙁
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Indeed, and its very strange because it seems like one goes through something first, then the other one follows, lol.
Oh yeah i remember us discussing it again in the past.She told me it made her day and i make her days better in general. She is indeed but i feel like i can’t appreciate it 🙁
Today we were joking around and i wouldn’t laugh “a lot” like before and it bothers me, as if i have a judge in my head.Well, i hope that’s the case and i don’t have any permanent problems.
Not from what i know, she doesn’t. Idk if she went on them in the past, never discussed it.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I am trying to but idk, feels difficult every day.
Two days ago we were texting and then she asked me how would i feel if she died (random thoughts that i have as well in regards to this matter) and i told her that some weeks ago i was thinking the same, what would she feel if i was gone (e.g accident) and she said that she would be devastated and just the thought of that makes her cry a lot, i was crying a lot too and i felt the need to express my love and support to her again, which i did. We wondered how can two people that only met for 3 days love each other? I cried a lot that night.
Then yesterday i was watching a reel with a couple dancing and my mind created this thought “me watching this video, after we’ve ended things and feeling nostalgia/void in my chest” then instantly my eyes got full of tears. Idk why i have those thoughts, i think it’s called anticipatory grief?
She’s going through a very rough patch because she’s having anxiety and panic attacks with all the stressing events that are unfolding now in her life, also her coming here in 20 days makes her anxious like hell. We’ve discussed it and by how she describes it, it’s almost exactly what i went through in november. She said that she’s typing goodnight messages and she feels nothing, dead inside, can’t form sentences easily, like what happened to me. I told her that it’s probably burnout like mine and to stop trying to feel things/do grand gestures and stuff. I sent her flowers yesterday to brighten up her day a little bit, she was so happy and told me that i make every day better for her.
Now the thing is, for some reason i believe it’s our situation that makes her like that, maybe that’s my mind trying to create scenarios for avoidance but idk.. Also, it’s been 10 days since i stoppped escitalopram and i still don’t have my libido and mood back. I hope it’s not permanent.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Oh i was feeling it before November, but now i just can’t feel that with anything, only some glimpses for brief moments with her sometimes.
Its funny that u mention it because sometimes for split seconds i think i feel something blocking me from trusting her love and allow it, idk really, could be my mind playing games but i am not sure.
I think i am dropping the shame because there is not much i can do about it.. i think?
That was my initial feelings and goal, i wanted to love her with everything i had and show her that there is still love in the world and that she doesn’t “burden” me as she’s always afraid of.
U think so, anita? I just want to be feeling it all the time and it’s frustrating when i don’t 🙁
Two days ago i was crying again thinking of her and i would be in my head “my sweet little girl”. Even now i tear up as i type this. So idk why i don’t feel excitement, happiness and the other stuff. Its so confusing. I think sometimes i feel a deep and immense fear of losing her, but it doesn’t come out often, just for seconds and it goes away. Also confusing!Hmm, maybe i need something from her that i can’t pinpoint to ask for it? But then again, if the issue was with her alone, i would be fine in the other areas of my life, so i think that’s depression.
It’s alright anita, thank you for the responses 🙂 I am taking some breaks from forums that’s why i am not posting every day.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Yeah i was very against hurting good people in general, especially her, a sweetheart that loves me 🙁
I think i had a lot of shame in the beginning but i am slowly learning to drop it. I don’t think anyone can control their feelings haha, its just my impossible standards.
Yesterday we were texting at noon and i was feeling nice, in a good mood, and i felt like telling her i love her, so i told her and she was surprised but she liked it a lot. Then i saw our cute bear reels that we share and i cried. I relate the female teddy bear to her and it gets me every time. I know it sounds childish but idk why i do it.
The negative feelings/avoidance strategies seem to have subsided to like 30-40% from 70% in the past 10 days, don’t wanna jinx it tho haha. I also stopped the meds entirely, 13/7 will be the third day that i am off. Haven’t noticed anything different tbh, slightly more libido but that’s it. Maybe it needs more time.I think i relate to what copilot’s saying. Lately i was questioning “what is love really? have i ever loved anyone? how do people that love feel like?” also, what were those things that i was feeling with previous girls? Just excitement? lust? infatuation? I think i also expected relationship to “save” me. Also, when i am the chaser (and the other party isn’t clear on their feelings, or im trying to win them over) i think i am safe to feel strongly because i “control” the situation, which is what flipped here in november in a way.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I think self-loathing comes when i can’t control what i feel and when not feeling what i wanna feel and shame comes because i feel like i am hurting/gonna hurt the other person or because i feel i am not worthy.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Thank you for your information. I think u and copilot are right. Chasing feelings and fighting them brings conflict and misery, but like u said, its easier said than done haha.
There are times that i can let go and ease into things but it feels as if im walking on a tight rope, but the shame, self loathing and frustration are there indeed.I know it’s not good having “shoulds and shouldnts” but its damn hard going on with this frustration daily 🙁
Sponge
I see a similarity here, u blaming ur inexperience in sex/relationships for the previous girl suddenly leaving u as soon as u showed feelings (vulnerability), saying that it delayed u. Now that u got another girl, perhaps before u become fully vulnerable with her (sex, deepening the relationship), something in ur subconscious shifted, fearing that she will leave u too, if she finds out about your lack of experience (supposedly, thats what u were blaming in the beginning with the previous girl), so u deactivated/shutdown to reject her first. Makes sense?
Anita will shed some light here too 🙂
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Yes i hope they’re fully out of my system and im back to my “normal” me.
I am trying but its really eating away at me, how i am feeling, what i SHOULD be feeling and how i should be acting/etc.. i hope i feel better soon.
Hey sponge, i am no expert but from what u’re describing i would agree with anita, that maybe the next step of the connection scared u or u didnt feel safe and u shutdown. Maybe the girl’s responses were not helpful either.
ConfusedParticipantI did yes, because when i read what what she texted me i smiled a little bit, but that’s about it 🙁
I think i don’t wanna try another med anytime soon. They say Bupropion helps with depression/anhedonia but it also increased anxiety and thoughts so maybe i shouldn’t try that yet.
He said the same thing he told me 4 months ago, that i am emotionally blunted/flat but we call it “frozen” sometimes in greek. He did tell me that he didn’t believe SSRIs would help my case to be fair. He also said to take them with anti-psychotics but i didnt like the effects so i didnt take those.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Yeah it doesn’t feel nice at all, like im living life on mute 🙁 I spoke with the psych today and i told him about the side effects and that i’ve completed 1 month and he said “well, i told u what i believe, u are <<frozen>>, not exactly depressed” and he told me to take 5mg (half the dose) for the next 5 days, stop it completely and go visit him next week to discuss and find a solution. He asked if i have thoughts on the extremes (black & white) and i told him no, i am mostly apathetic and can’t give a damn, also libido is gone which i hope comes back after the med is off my system.. i am a bit scared of the thoughts coming back tho but we’ll see..
I know, my sweet babygirl needs reassurance, she’s scared and hesitant and i can’t give her what i would have given her last year 🙁
She’s coming in the 9th of August for 4 days, booked the tickets today! I can’t say i got excited, just a 10% maybe but i am trying not to give into the thoughts of “why didn’t i feel excitement”, etc.I hope so, anita. I wonder when will this go away? I believe its a depression of some form 🙁
ConfusedParticipantToday she texted me to check in on me and how i am feeling with my stomach issues and while i should be appreciating that, i felt nothing, i feel nothing for everyone and everything 🙁
We discussed what seemed “bad” to her and it was something she understood wrong, but i think it all boils down on her inability to trust me and nitpicking everything i say trying to find something in my words. She then said “i just wanted to feel like u care enough about me 🙁 ”
This phrase would have me melting before november but now i just can’t feel emotions for anyone and it’s really annoying.. -
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