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  • #457173
    Confused
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    Haha we dont know for sure until we try

    Yeah that’s what she said, she will look for tickets in 3 days for May, but i get so anxious πŸ™

    Coincidentally, therapist today asked me about the SSRIs i was taking (tepram) and i told her i only used them for 9-10 days and i stopped, but she said i have to use them for at least 1.5 months to see any difference and if i wanna try again i should ask a doctor. But then a video of Ali Greymond (check her out on YT, she’s OCD specialist) popped up about SSRIs and she said that it rarely helps people, maybe a bit to do ERP but other than that, nothing. I dont really wanna take meds but idk, im conflicted..But my therapist said i should really try and seperate my thoughts and focus on the experience (like Copilot AI said), but its really tough.

    Today we’re texting and sending each other some funny reels with the context of jealousy and stuff and i laugh a lot, i love how she plays jealous and her reactions is exactly what i want in my girlfriend, how we tease each other, it’s wonderful. But then something lurks in the back of my mind, the thought of not wanting her, and then i can’t enjoy her πŸ™

    #457176
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused (using computer so emojis don’t show up)

    No, no, please don’t try lobotomy (horrified face emoji)

    I read that “there is no publicly available evidence that Ali Greymond has formal clinical training or an academic degree in psychology or mental health. Her method is based on personal experience and coaching, not on a credentialed therapeutic background…

    “What is known about her education? None of the available sources list a university degree, clinical training, or licensure as a psychologist, therapist, or counselor.

    “Her platforms describe her as an OCD recovery coach, someone who recovered from OCD herself, someone who has helped others for many years. But they do not mention formal academic credentials.

    “This strongly suggests that her expertise is experience‑based, not academically or clinically certified… She is not a licensed clinician, so her work is considered coaching, not therapy…. Not a substitute for licensed therapy… No published research validating her method. Not appropriate for people needing diagnosis, medication management, or trauma‑informed care” (Copilot)

    I asked Copilot if there’re clinical trials that show that SSRIs are effective in regard to OCD:

    Answer: “Yes. Multiple randomized, double‑blind, placebo‑controlled clinical trials show that SSRIs are effective for treating OCD in both adults and children. The evidence base is large, consistent, and spans decades… Key findings: SSRIs showed a statistically significant benefit over placebo. CBT alone was more effective than SSRIs alone but adding CBT to an SSRI improved outcomes… Fluoxetine and sertraline performed better than fluvoxamine in this analysis…”

    What do you think about the above?

    (Thinking), Anita

    #457179
    Confused
    Participant

    Haha i dont think they even perform it nowadays.

    Oh no i didnt say she’s licensed, she’s just someone who recovered and helps people for the past 20 years i think. She’s experienced.

    I think meds just mask the effects if they are extreme, but for me, i dont know if they are extreme. I wouldn’t say that, because sometimes i can handle the thoughts and not pay attention to them. Also i didn’t like the side effects, which could go away in a month but still.

    #457180
    anita
    Participant

    Hey πŸ‘‹ Confused:

    Ha-ha, it so happens that I live 5 minutes (driving) from a complex, now preserved as a historical tourist attraction, famous for having performed lobotomies on a regular basis!

    I visited the actual preserved surgery room where lobotomies were performed 😱

    Taking or not taking psych drugs is a very personal choice. I’d say if nothing else works..?

    πŸ€” 😱 🀒 Anita

    #457201
    Confused
    Participant

    Hey anita

    Oh interesting! What were the results? Asking for a friend haha

    I am too much of a chicken i guess πŸ™

    #457202
    anita
    Participant

    No, no, Confused: I visited that place as a visitor, not as a patient (I πŸ€”)

    My 🧠 has been compromized though (not quite lobotomized 🀒) having grown up scared on an ongoing basis.

    And no, no, Confused is not a πŸ”

    He is an intelligent, kind and couragous man, I says!

    πŸ” πŸ¦‰ πŸ‡ Anita

    #457214
    Confused
    Participant

    I know i just assumed u learned many things about that place haha (that is the trap πŸ˜‰ )

    Yeah same sadly..

    Haha thank you for your kind words anita πŸ™‚

    Btw, i think we’ve talked about it again, but what are the symptoms of dissociation? Do u think i got it in November?

    #457215
    anita
    Participant

    Hey πŸ‘‹ Confused:

    You are welcome, I meant those words and still do ✨️✨️✨️

    Back in November I think you got overwhelmed (too much emotion), so you downloaded all that emotion, so much of it that you found yourself in a minus

    🀒 (that’s a face with too much inside, got to expelled it)

    #457216
    anita
    Participant

    By too much-emotion I mean too much fear of the kind you grew up with “Yeah same sadly”)- fear of hurting her, fear of being hurt)- F.E.A.R.

    #457217
    anita
    Participant

    Edited: By too much emotion, I mean too much fear of the kind you grew up with (“yeah same sadly”)- fear of hurting her, fear of being hurt.

    When you grow up being afraid…

    #457232
    Confused
    Participant

    Hey anita

    Hmm, so too much emotion can cause dissociation? Actually it might have went like this: Waking up with anhedonia, feeling scared because “where did my feelings go”
    I will hurt her
    She will leave me
    Where are my feelings?!?!
    -Dissociation

    Could this be the reason? I saw a video about emotional numbness and dissociation which describe my situation perfectly.

    Damn, today has been pretty flat-apathy day. At night i read her amazing heartfelt letter about her feelings towards me again and i could only cry a little bit, not like the last time πŸ™

    What karma am i suffering to have such a wonderful person love me this much (and is all i could ask for) and i can’t feel anything? πŸ™

    #457233
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Dear Confused:

    You wrote: “feeling scared… Dissociation”. No doubt in my non- lobotomized 🧠 that there’s a strong connection between the two.

    The day before you woke up with anhedonia, were you scared (not necessarily of what you were scared the days after)?

    She loves you even when you don’t feel anything.. does she?

    🧠 πŸ€” Anita

    #457234
    Confused
    Participant

    Idk if it helps but im trying to find the correct order, did the anhedonia come first and then fear of losing her or “future plans talk” > fear > dissociation > anhedonia?

    I dont remember feeling scared, i was feeling empty/unsatisfied/no mood..but as soon as i realized that even talking to her didn’t lift my mood i instantly panicked and started obsessing over “where did my feelings go”..

    Yeah, that’s what she said (not directly because she’s shy & afraid too), but i think she does.. She’s a gem πŸ™

    #457235
    anita
    Participant

    Oh, I was caught in my own understanding of Fear=> Dissociation. End point. But yes, the order of things could have been just what you outlined.

    So, she does love you when you don’t feel love or pleasure. Can you love you somehow, no matter what you feel, or not feel?

    πŸ™‚ 😒 😱 ☺️ 😱 Anita

    #457236
    Confused
    Participant

    Haha which one though?

    Well i haven’t told her that i am completely numb at times because i dont wanna hurt her, but i think she does love me unconditionally and she genuinely cares about me. Haha that’s a tough one, i don’t like myself πŸ™‚

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